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Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« on: Sunday 31 August 08 22:29 UTC (UK) »

In a family history done in 1889 it states that Jane Younger was alive.  She was born in 1792 and on 1881 census was aged 88. She was the daughter of James Hunter.
I have checked Scotlands people and can find no trace of her death listed. Her husband was George Younger, Brewer (of Youngers Brewery) and he was buried in Alloa Churchyard when he died in 1853.
Can anyone help please.
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 August 08 23:37 UTC (UK) »

Her death is showing as indexed:

Jean Hunter/Younger, age 97. Death occured in Alloa, CLACKMANNAN.

Monica  Smiley

Added: Death shows in 1890
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 August 08 23:41 UTC (UK) »

A whopping 15 pages of her last Will & Testament to look at on SP (if your eyes are up to it  Cool):

Jane or Jean Younger, 02/08/1890, Mrs, or Hunter, widow of George Younger, brewer in Alloa, d. 08/06/1890 at Nether Carsebridge, Alloa, testate - Inventory; Trust Disposition and Settlement at Alloa Sheriff Court   Refs: SC64/42/18

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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 September 08 10:30 UTC (UK) »

Hello

It appears that this is your first foray north of the border?  If so, the SP to which Monica refers is to:

 www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk    a ppv site - £6 buys you 30 credits which will allow you to download 5 entries - which give exactly the same info as certs.  With the info you have ,will allow for the download of both death entries and then a further 3 downloads. 

The will can be obtained from the same site. - cost of £5.00.  With a will you have to select it.  It goes into a basket and then you have to pay for it seperately.

Regards,   Steve :O)
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 11:12 UTC (UK) »

Monica and Steve, thank you both so much for your invaluable help.  I have been doing Fam History for over 25 years, but had a mental block when inputting only Jane and not trying variants as I usually do. What a wally!
I have a subscription for SP as I have been looking into the extensive Younger Family on and off for a while.  My mother was a Younger distantly related (but on the poor side!) to the Brewers.  Her gt grandfather James, a Joiner, migrated south, married a girl from  Welshpool and settled in Brikenhead where he and his family remained.
Many thanks once again
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 September 08 21:36 UTC (UK) »

After stumbling upon this thread by accident - I decided to register.

With my interest in the local brewing tradition I have been researching the Youngers of Alloa - and the family connections with other Scottish breweries.

I'm thinking that George (1790-1853) and Jane Younger's (died1890) son James (1818-1868) became head of the Alloa brewery and married Janet McEwan (1823-1912) sister of (the later) Sir William McEwan (1827-1913) who was to become one of Britain's major beer barons.

Another son, Robert (1820-1901) went to Edinburgh and opened his own brewery there.

I am in correspondence with members of both the Alloa and Edinburgh branches of the family - as well as a member of the McEwan-Younger branch.

I'd be happy to help.

The former Meadow Brewery, which included the family home in that period, still survives in Alloa, now converted into flats.




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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 September 08 18:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi!  Just like macalloa, I too have just stumbled over this chatroom by accident.  I am also quite interested in part of the Youngers family history... as I have a few Blelochs in our family tree who married Youngers.  There were two sisters Mary and Jean who married brothers in 1789.  I also have a child of one of these marrying his cousin.. also a Bleloch.  This Bleloch family farmed in Clackmannan.  If anyone can give me more information to this, or indeed the Youngers who were born to those marriages, I would be most grateful.  Many thanks for putting in the photo of the family home... great to see old buildings being restored.  Looking forward to hearing from you... Lorrie



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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 September 08 20:00 UTC (UK) »

Lorrie21.

I'm no genealogist (did I spell it correctly ?) so please bear with me. The male line of the Youngers quoted followed their fathers as head of the brewery, although not always the eldest sons - I don't have much info on any "missing" sons.

Mary Bleloch (died 1837) married James Younger (1763-1809) in 1789, his father George (1722-1788) had started the family brewing business circa 1764.

Their son George (1790-1853) married Jane Hunter (1792-1890) in 1816.

Their son James (1818-1868) married Janet McEwan (1823-1912) in 1850. His younger brother Robert (1820-1901) moved to Edinburgh and founded his own brewery there in 1854.

Janet's brother was William McEwan who founded the renowned Fountainbridge brewery in Edinburgh - of McEwan's Export fame.

James and Janet had 5 sons and 1 daughter - I have a photo, circa 1858, of Janet and 4 of the boys (the youngest was then unborn) and the girl. This generation, great grandchildren of Mary Bleloch, brought the Younger family to national prominence.

George (1851-1929) became 1st Viscount Leckie - lots of information via 'Google' search engine, or here

http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/dnb/37082.html

His younger brother William became managing director of William McEwan's (his maternal uncle) brewery in Edinburgh in 1886 and guided it into becoming one of the biggest brewing concerns in the UK.

Here is McEwan's background -

http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/dnb/50416.html

Their younger brother James settled in St.Andrews and gifted the Younger Hall to the university.

The youngest brother Robert became a very prominent legal figure, later Baron Blanesburgh.

Would you like me to post the photo mentioned above ?

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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 08:19 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, Macalloa for that information.  Your link to the oxforddnb.com has been very useful too!

Mary and Jean Bleloch were two sister who married two of the Younger brothers... Mary married James Younger and Jean married George Younger.  However George Younger died at an early age, and his children were brought up by their grandparents from the Bleloch side on the farm.

Mary and Jean were children of John Bleloch and Margaret Hunter.  I don`t know if you are from the area yourself, but their family farmed the farm of Gartgreenie over many years. 

I have just been on holiday to Scotland and enjoyed the countryside where the farms are in Clackmannanshire.

If it is no trouble to yourself, I would love to see a photo of Mary Blelochs g-granchildren. 

I hope it isnt too much to ask whether you also have any photos of the gravestones at Alloa.  Mary Bleloch is also buried there amongst the Youngers!

Best wishes for now Lorrie21
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 08:41 UTC (UK) »

Lorrie21,

Thanks for that. I'll try and digest all these connections later.

I'm a native of Alloa and my family has deep roots here over several generations.

I'll post the photo tonight.

I have photos of the 1st Viscount's grave in Greenside cemetery which includes other family members and that of the McEwan's headstone as well. I also have that of William McEwan's grave at Great Bookham in Surrey.

Clackmannanshire Council have records of burials going way back - that is how I located the Younger and McEwan sites - Greenside has not been used for many years now. I can easily give you their number for further investigation.

I did spot other Younger headstones there - but I was'nt looking for anything earlier than the generation born in the mid 19th century.

If you have an e-mail address I can attach the photos direct, rather than post them all here.

I also have contact details for some current members of various branches of the Younger family - all have been very helpful.

If you have'nt already done so - get down to your local library and dig out Burke's Peerage as it contains extensive details on the Younger family, I found it invaluable. Also, "Who's Who" and "Who Was Who" was very useful.
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 09:09 UTC (UK) »

Hello Macalloa and Lorrie 21
I have been away and return to find my query has taken on a life of its own.  If you send me your email addresses I have a typewritten family history in which you may both be interested. It gives quite extensive details of the family going way back.  I have spent some time verifying its validity, but it is very interesting.
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

I have just started researching my family tree and I haven't got very far yet.  So far I have found that my grandmother, whose name was Jane Edgar Younger, born in December 1879, was the daughter of William Douglas Younger of Alloa, who was born in/around 1848.  His wife was Jane Edgar, born in Renfrewshire. William Douglas's father was called Robert Younger (Brewer)   
This is as far as I have got but I noticed that 'Macalloa' is researching the Younger family and I wonder if I could ask for help to get a stage further
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 January 09 09:25 UTC (UK) »

Good Morning.

I'm more interested in the local brewing tradition than the genealogy of the Younger/McEwan family, however I have found that helpful.

I assume that Robert Younger (1820-1901) is the member of the Alloa brewing family that interests you ? He moved to Edinburgh circa 1850 and worked for Dryboroughs there before opening his own brewery there in 1854.

His great grandson, David Younger (see below), was co-founder of Broughton Ales near Biggar - and one of their brews, "Scottish Oatmeal Stout" bears the portrait of Robert Younger on the label - see www.broughtonales.co.uk for details etc.

Robert was younger brother of James Younger (1818-1868) who married Janet McEwan (1822-1912), sister of the William McEwan who was to become one of the most famous names in the Scottish (and British) brewing industry.

Robert's parents were George Younger (1790-1853) who married Jane Hunter (1792-1890) in 1818.

Capt. (John) David Bingham Younger lives in the Borders (Blyth Bridge, West Linton) - he helped kindly me with my research. I'm sure he'll be glad to assist.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 January 09 09:47 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for that Macalloa.  However I think that maybe I'm on the wrong track because I have a copy of the marriage certificate of  William Douglas Younger.  It's a bit hard to read but It says that when William Douglas married (1871) his father, Robert was deceased!  Thanks anyway.
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Re: Jane Younger (nee Hunter)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 January 09 10:12 UTC (UK) »

OK.

The Younger families used the same male Christain names across the generations.

I have some information gleamed from a copy of a letter that the Scottish Brewing Archives sent me.

Quote - "My great grandfather Robert Younger, b 1802, the father of my granny Anne Younger, was the brother of George Younger, brewer, b 1790, and uncle of James and of Robert Younger who founded St.Anns Brewery in Edinburgh."

I suspect that would be the Robert Younger you are interested in ?

The letter was written in 1996 by a gentlemen in West Lothian in response to research being carried out by Alma Topen for the SBA. I have the address etc., however I would not wish to pass it on without his permission.
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