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Topic: 1861/71 Inverness Census, Mina McDonald (Read 1402 times)
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Vic H
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Help please? I am hoping for a long shot! Perhaps a search in 1861, or 1871 Census for my grandmother, Mina MacDonald & her family.
I have only her d. cert. details, they are: d. 19/3/ 1936, NSW Aust. age 81. parents William MacDonald & Annie, place of birth Inverness. Her b. therefore around 1855. Mina migrated to New Zealand before 1881 (details unknown) where she married my grandfather Roland Cole 1879, Dunedin.
Having searched the igi there is no listing for a b. for Mina (or Williamina / Wilhelmina which I assume was her full name) with parents William & Annie. The closest I can get is a Williamina b. 1856, Croy & Dalcoss, Inverness but parents are William & Catherine Rose. I dont think this is the family.
I have found a marriage for a William MacDonald to an Ann Kennedy in 6/6/1852 Kilmonivaig, Inverness but cannot find any refernce to any children being born. I also found a m. for A William to an Ann MacCuish but no Williamina among their children are listed !
If someone can do a quick check for a Minna (Williamina) age abt. 6 (1861 census) / abt. 16 (1871 census) b. possibly Inverness? in Inverness. par. William & Annie I would really appreciate it. thanks from Oz, Vicki
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winston
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HI
do you have any info in reference as to what William Macdonalds occupation may have been?
Wendy
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Vic H
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Hi Wendy
Unfortunately I do not have a thing!!!, other than my grandmothers d. cert which gives minimal details. My mother has no recollection of any brothers/sisters so I am working from scratch so to speak. Would appreciate absolutely anything!
Vicki
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Gadget
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Hi Vicki
The William and Catherine one looks like it could be further investigated. The age of the children suggests a possible second marriage - Williamina is 4 and there is a younger sibling aged 2. Then a big gap - 10, 12 and 14. The eldest daughter (14) is called Ann. It might be that the informant on the death cert could have mixed things up 
I don't see any other families that come near to matching your criteria, otherwise. Also, the family could have emigrated before 1861.
Gadget
Added - checked the 1851 and the parents are William and Catherine, so my theory of second marriage doesn't seem to work
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Vic H
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Hi Gadget
I appreciate the time. It is weird as I was leaning towards this family. I have printed off everything that I have on them. I have 7 children.
1 F: Anne MACDONALD
Birth: 28 Oct 1845
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2 F: Catherine MACDONALD
Birth: 5 Nov 1848
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3 F: Janet MACDONALD, GG Aunt
Birth: 17 Jul 1851 Croy & Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland4
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4 M: William MACDONALD, GG Uncle
Birth: 9 Jan 1854 Croy & Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland4
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5 F: Williamina MACDONALD "Minna", G Grandmother
Birth: 28 Dec 1856 Croy & Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland4
Birth Memo: not substantiated
Death: 19 Mar 1936 Hamilton, NSW3, 5570
Spouse: Rowland John COLE, G Grandfather
Marriage: 25 Jan 1879 New Zealand1, 3260 NZ
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6 M: John MACDONALD, GG Uncle
Birth: 8 Apr 1859 Croy & Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland4
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7 M: James MACDONALD, GG Uncle
Birth: 11 Sep 1861 Croy & Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland4
Having spent all day online came up with 1 piece of info via the 1869 Debtors list. 6 Macdonalds were on the vessel Paria dep. Glasgow 11/10/1865 to Port Chalmers NZ 6 Jan 1866.
Margaret, Elizabeth, Williamina* Charles, James* Mary so am working with these names now.
The only other family close was the William & Ann Kennedy m 1852. but no children. Conflicting igi entry  however found 7 children b. to them from 1827 -1842 (but no Williamina).
Any further digging would be appreciated, maybe deaths reg. Very puzzling
Vicki
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winston
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HI Vicki
Found this family unit in the 1871 Scootish census Living at Easter Brae of Cantray, Invernessshire
William Mcdonald 57* Blacksmith bn Croy
Catherine Mcdonald 45* bn Daviot
Janet Mcdonald 20* bn Croy Domestic Servant
Willimina Mcdonald 14* Scholar bn Croy
John Mcdonald 12 Scholar bn Croy
James Mcdonald 10 Scholar bn Croy
So it looks like you still on the hunt for a Travelling date if the above family are yours - that is.
Wendy
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winston
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HI vicki
1881 finds this unit still at same address as the 1871 unit above
William Mcdonald 59* bn Croy Occ Blacksmith
Cath* Mcdonald 53* bn Daviot
Jessie? Mcdonald 28* bn Croy
John Mcdonald 20 bn Croy
James Mcdonald 18 bn Croy
Catherine H Mcdonald 5months grandaughter fathers name James
Until an image can be seen these dates and names are just a rough guide as to what has been seen by the transcriber.
Wendy
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Vic H
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Having spent all day online came up with 1 piece of info via the 1869 Debtors list. 6 Macdonalds were on the vessel Paria dep. Glasgow 11/10/1865 to Port Chalmers NZ 6 Jan 1866.
Margaret, Elizabeth, Williamina* Charles, James* Mary Was there anyone accompanying them as they would be quite young?
I have been away for 2 days sorry for slow response. In answer to your Q? I am unable to tell the debtors list gives only names!! no ages no anything!
Vic
Ps Have read wendys replies the plot thickens!!!! If family was still in Scotland in 1871 then I can forget the "Paria" listing 
ta Vic
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Vic H
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Wendy
Lovely to hear from you, I won't tell my husband that I spent the whole day searching shipping lists for nothin' & that I am back to square 1  Ok from what you have found I am going to work along the lines that Williamina left circ 1871-1878 yeh! only 7 years of ships to pound through! I still need to to positively substantiate that I have the correct family. Something niggles me about her mother being stated as "Annie". So I will still do some searching for an Annie! & a William who had a Williamina.
This has helped me heaps in the meantime.
thankyou for your effort, I wish I had access to the sources from over here as easily as you do.
cheers from oz Vic
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Vic H
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HI
do you have any info in reference as to what William Macdonalds occupation may have been?
Wendy
I have established that William McDonald was a "Game Keeper"  if anyone can search 1861 census, Inverness, for household William, wife Annie daug. Williamina age 5 6 or 7 please would appreciate it.
cheers from oz, vic
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