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avm228
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I know Phineas existed, and we know he co-existed with his brother Henry because I found them together with their parents in 1851, as above.
But the only connection we know of between Phineas and the Mary Ann/Minnie/Phoebe/Ernest family is the 1881 census. The marriage and baptisms for that family show the man of that family consistently as Henry. So I'm wondering whether in 1881 "Pheneas" was really Henry giving a false name for some reason (and the false name which came to his mind was that of his brother Phineas).
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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lizdb
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I tend to favour Anna's theory - that it is actually the Henry who is the man here. It is Henry who married Mary Ann, fathered the three children, calls himself Phineas after his brother who has already disappeared in 1881 for reasons unknown, and disappears himself.... maybe back to Portslade/Brighton/Newhaven area...
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Old Mother Reilly
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Audrey:
In case this might be useful to you I attach a link from the Berkshire FHS site: perhaps it might provide some answers or some useful background.
www.flexibase.freeserve.co.uk/wrnm/
One name study: W*R*N*M (Warnham / Wernham / Wirdnam / Wirnham / Wornham etc) surname with other surname close links. All dates, all places but most in Berkshire.
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Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford, Lymington, Calne): Moore (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley, Salisbury): Hayter (Whiteparish)
O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)
Gore (Newbury, Wigan): Hawkins (Gt Bedwyn, Hungerford): Massey/Wallis (Shalbourne): Mildenhall (Ogbourne): Smith/Lilley (Nhants): Wernham (Chieveley): Woosnam (mid-Wales, Salop): Yaldwyn
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audrey69
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Thank you everyone for your help and I hate to put a spanner in the works but Henry and Pheneas/Phineas are 2 different people. I have Henry recorded as born in 1843 and Pheneas/Phineas in 1847 with baptisms for each. Henry, I believe married Mary Ann Stacey but the Mary Ann married to Pheneas/Phineas is still unknown other than the fact that she was from Croydon area.
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avm228
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Audrey:
We know that they were 2 different people - see my post no 16 above...
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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