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sgrollitt
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Burial details
« on: Tuesday 02 September 08 09:06 UTC (UK) »

My great-great-grandmother Ann Bowden was born in 1834 in Tinure, Co Louth. Her parents James Boden and Ann O'Neill married in Tinure in the parish of Mullary in 1815. I can find no record of their births (about 1795) or who their parents were.

My great-great-grandmother Ann Bowden first married in Dublin in 1847. Since she left home and married very early, I'm assuming that her father had died. There is a James Boden buried at Monasterboice, but I don't know the details on the headstone. There is also a James Bowden buried in Newtownstalaban (there is also an Anne Bowden buried there, which might have been his wife).

I also note on the County Louth Flax Growers list of 1796 a Matthew Boadin of Mullery and an Owen O'Neill of Mullery. These are the correct surnames at the correct place, but are they the fathers of James Bowden and Ann O'Neill?
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 09:32 UTC (UK) »

Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864. For earlier dates there may or may not be church baptism records.

There could have been many reasons for Ann Bowden leaving 'home'- Co. Louth- to go to Dublin besides the death of her father. She could have gone their to work, stay with relatives or the whole family could have moved to Dublin or it could be that she went to Dublin to get married and hadn't been living there previously.

There's no way to tell if the people listed in the Flax Growers list are related.
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 12:06 UTC (UK) »

The gravestone inscriptions are as follows:
(Newtownstalaban) BOWDEN - "Erected by Richard Bowden in memory of his Grandfather, James Bowden of Newtown Stalaban who departed this life 4th March 1855 and his ancestors whose remains are interred here since the year A.D. 1630. Also the remains of his father, Thomas Bowden, master of the S.S. Granuaile, who died at sea 15th April 1847. His brother Nicholas who died 29th October 1874, his son John who died young. Also his mother, Anne, relic f the above Thomas Bowden, who departed this life 25th March, 1898."
Inverted on this stone is the following:
"Sacred to the memory of Rev. Nicholas Bowden of the Franciscan Order, son of the above James Bowden who departed this life 2nd Jan. 1849, in the 27th yar of his age."

(Monasterboice) BODEN - Erected by Alice Boden in memory of her father and mother, James and Anne Brady

Hope that is of some assistance.

Brendan
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sgrollitt
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 12:33 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much for a very thorough reply.  Smiley  Smiley
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sgrollitt
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 12:46 UTC (UK) »

Brendan,

You have very kindly told me about the inscription for James Boden in Monasterboice. Can I be so bold as to ask whether you can do the same for all Bodens buried at Monasterboice:

Alice Boden
Catherine Boden
Edward Boden
John Boden
Mary Boden
Mary Boden
Patrick Boden
Patrick Boden
Patrick Boden [sen]

I would be ever so much obliged,
Simon
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 13:17 UTC (UK) »

There's only one other Boden Inscription in Monasterboice:
BODEN - "Erected by John Boden, Monasterboice in memory of his mother, Mary, 8th August, 1894. Also his sister, Catherine, 27th April 1900. Also, the above John Boden, who died, Aug., 14th 1916. His brother, Edward, 5th April 1930. His nephew, Patrick, 7th April 1932."

In a McDONNELL grave there is the following:
McDONNELL: Julia McDonnell, Patrick St., Drogheda, who died 23rd Sept., 1961. Her brother, Patrick Boden who died 8th August., 1957, and their parents, Patrick and Mary Boden, Kearneystown, Dunleer, 6th April 1918 and 3rd Oct., 1921, respectively.

Brendan
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sgrollitt
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 14:17 UTC (UK) »

Thanks again Brendan. I can use this information to rule out certain possibilities.

Yours sincerely,
Simon
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sgrollitt
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 14:52 UTC (UK) »

I can't find any burial records for my Boden (Bowden) ancestors in Louth:

James Boden born about 1795
Anne Boden (nee O'Neill) born about 1795
Patrick Boden born in 1819 in Red Gap, Bawntaaffe
James Boden born in 1830 in Red Gap, Bawntaaffe

Might their records be contained in a document in Dublin or Belfast?
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 15:39 UTC (UK) »

If they were lucky, and survived after 1864, then their deaths should be recorded with the Register of Births, Marriages and Deaths in Dublin. The death certificates would be available there.
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 September 08 16:00 UTC (UK) »

If Brendan's records are from gravestone inscriptions it could be that other Bodens didn't have a headstone but could still be buried in the area. If the graveyard is attached to a church it might have a burial register (might only list name, age, place and date of burial).
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 04 September 08 07:36 UTC (UK) »

Excuse me again, but do you have an address in Dublin for the Births, Marriages, and Deaths?
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 04 September 08 08:11 UTC (UK) »

To order certificates from GRO:
www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 04 September 08 13:55 UTC (UK) »

I have just orderd a certificate. Thank you.

The following are all the Bowden burials in Tullyallen:
-  Bowden Bridget
-  Bowden Bridget
-  Bowden John
-  Bowden John
-  Bowden Laurnce
-  Bowden Pairi
-  Bowden Patk
-  Bowden Patrick
-  Bowden Patrick
-  Bowden Richard
-  Bowden Rose
-  Bowden Thomas

I wonder which ones, if any, of these people I'm related to?
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Re: Burial details
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 04 September 08 14:36 UTC (UK) »

Well Simon, there's only one way to find out!

TULLYALLEN Burial Ground:

BODIN: This stone and Burial Place belongeth to Pairi Bodin of Deenrath and his Posterity. Here lieth the Body of John Bodin his father who departed this life agust the 24th 1764 aged 69 years.

BOWDEN: Glory be to God on High. Erected by Thomas and Laurnce Bowden in memory of their father Richard Bowden who died the 5th Janry 1787 aged 80 years and of their mother Rose Bowden who departed this life the 11th Janry 1802 aged 70 years. Renewed by Patrick Bowden grandson of the above Richard in memory of his beloved wife Bridget who dies 23rd January 1862 aged 56 years.

BOWDEN: Sacred to the memory of Patrick Bowden Mell Drogheda. Of your Charity pray for the happy repose of the souls of Patrick Bowden who died on the 13th March 1875 aged 72 years. of Bridget (his wife) who died 23rd January 1862 aged 56 years and of their son john who died on 25th October 1863 in the 22nd year of his age.
Also of the soul of Mrs Rose Anne moonan Mell who died 12th December 1901 aged 63 years and her husband John who died 28th March 1906 aged 75 years and of the soul of Mary Bridget Carroll Slane who died 22nd March 1902 aged 24 years.

BOWDEN: I.H.S. Here lyeth the body of Patk Bowden of Drogheda. Departed this life 19th Oct 1774 aged 61 years also his Father and Mother and a vast number of his relations.


And in TULLYALLEN graveyard:

BODEN: ...S..cted .... ohn Boden in ...mory of Margt Daw... died 8th Augt ...864 and her posterity

BODEN: James Boden

BOWDEN: In loving memory of Richard Bowden Sheetland Rd. died 6th Jan 1952 aged 72 years. His father Patrick and relatives. [and a few more very modern burials (1990s]

Hope that sheds a little more light,

Brendan
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