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Valigene
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My grandmother Sarah, we look alike but never met
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Hi I am new, to this site but have done a lot with my family tree. I have always thought we had a barge/canal link and finding this site is brilliant.
My grandfather was one of the many John Fradleys(1),
his dad was John Fradley(2)
and his dad was John Fradley,(3)
brother of Edward Fradley who was the father of
John Fradley(4) 1858 from Stone married to Eliza. Still with me!
Now John Fradley(2) married a Mary ann Burditt from Lubenham, Leicester, the only way we feel they could have met was through canal links as the canal is close to both places.Many of my Fradleys were farmers, John(1) and John(2) were.
My tree is on ancestry.com, if any family member would like to view it please let me know as I need an e mail address to send you an invitation otherwise its a paid subscription site.
Any further information I will be watching for
Look forward to getting to know you all.
Val
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Norfolk==Green, Fuller,Nelson,Allen
Staffs==Fradley,Burditt,Ward,Wood
Leicester==Hubbard,Ward,Warner,Dale.Bailey
Leicester==Royce, Cank, Shenton
Leeds=Halliday,Brooke,Woodhead
Birkenhead==Sadaski,Taylor(Jewish)(Polish)
Hull==Brown,Goldstein(Jewish)(Russian)
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Valigene
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My grandmother Sarah, we look alike but never met
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Hi Lindarhead
I haven;t got a John Fradley 1807 but some of my lot came from Gayton, any more names that may link?
I have a John Fradley(yes another!!)1775 in Gayton, his dad was John !! 1741 also was born in Gayton. Would be interesting to hear from you
Val
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Norfolk==Green, Fuller,Nelson,Allen
Staffs==Fradley,Burditt,Ward,Wood
Leicester==Hubbard,Ward,Warner,Dale.Bailey
Leicester==Royce, Cank, Shenton
Leeds=Halliday,Brooke,Woodhead
Birkenhead==Sadaski,Taylor(Jewish)(Polish)
Hull==Brown,Goldstein(Jewish)(Russian)
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jacquelineve
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1871 census Burslem Staffs RG10/2850 folio 18 page 27
John Johnson 50 boatman Staffs Talk o'the Hill
Mary 45 Shrop.Madeley
John 16 salop Tunstall
Hannah 8 ......
Thomas (father) 88 boatman Staffs Stoke
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Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs Harts Hill: Baggot Wright Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson Derbyshire:Wilcockson Derby Belper:Spencer Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs. Hodgetts Radnorshire: Meredith Bristol Somerset: Box Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ann cooper
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iS THIS ONE A
NY CONNECTION
Walter Johnson Head Age: 29 b: London Occ: Boatman Barge
E Johnson wife Age: 25 Alrewas, Staffordshire
Arthur Johnson Son Age: 5 b: Alrewas, Staffs
Eliza Johnson Dau Age: 3 b: Alrewas, Staffordshire
William Johnson Son Age 1 b: Alrewas, Staffordshire
Source: 1881 Census 1341645 RG11 2691/31 19
Residence: Boat moored at Little Heywood Wharf, Colwich, Staffordshire
Burials at Middlewich Cemetery, Cheshire
ID: 79
Entry No. 79
Name: Edward Johnson
Description of Person Buried: Son of Joseph Johnson, Boatman
Age: 3yrs
Place of Death: Newton
Date of Burial: 26/10/1868
Grave No. 374
Ann
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ann cooper
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Hi
If you look at various census records for boatmen, they moored up for the night in some cases they give the name of the boat.
In this case they had moored up on the night of the census.
Ann
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ann cooper
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How old was Sarah, she may not have been travelling with her family but on another boat. Restrictions on the number of people living on a Boat ie number of cabins.
You could try checking the boat records at the county archives. Stoke (Hanley)archieves have records, Stafford possibly as well.
Ann
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ann cooper
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Afraid not, you have search them yourself.
Stoke archives have a lot of Boat Registers, to go through, when I did my research spent about 5hrs.
You could try contacting them and see if they do searches, they may charge for the service.
Ann
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jacquelineve
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Joanna
It's possible that the family may have been moored out of the census enumerators reach, I believe this is the reason why
some of my boatmen ancestors can't be found on census. Re 1861, I have quite a few missing from that one.
Jackie.
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Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs Harts Hill: Baggot Wright Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson Derbyshire:Wilcockson Derby Belper:Spencer Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs. Hodgetts Radnorshire: Meredith Bristol Somerset: Box Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ann cooper
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Hi Jan-p
Whilst looking for info I came across the following
Wolverhampton
St Marys - Marriages
169/338 11th July 1866
Samuel Evans Bach Boatman Cannock Roadson of Edward Evans deceased
Elizabeth Meredith Full Age Widow Canock Road dau of Francis Cape Boatman
marriage witnessed by William Chumbley and Hannah ?
St Marys - Baptism Records
133/1059 23rd May 1857
Elizabeth dau of Richard and Elizabeth Meredith Where Born: 'On Boat' fathers Occ: Boatman
Ann
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ann cooper
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Hi JoTH
Found the following
St Marys - Wolverhampton
Marriages
Pg 24
34/67 28th may 1883
John Bannister Age: 21y Bach Boatman Residence; Boat 'Pelican'
Son of George Bannister
Sarah Jane Johnson Age: 20y Spinster Residence: Boat 'Nelly'
Dau of John Johnson Occ: Boatman
Witnessed by: J Mulharky and Eliza Mason
71/142 3rd April 1885
William Johnson Age:32 Occ: Boatman Residece: Boat'Barlaston'
Son of Peter Johnson Occ: Retired
Jane Wall Widow Age: 31 Occ: Boatwoman Residence: Boat 'Barlaston'
Dau of Edward Wordsby Occ: Boatman
William Foster Full Age Widow Occ Cabinet Lockmaker Residence: Montrose St,
Son of Thomas Foster Occ: Decesed
Ellen Johnson Full Age Spinster Residence: Montrose St, Dau of John Johnson Occ: Boatman
Witnessed by Richard and Anne Dobson
156/311 9th Feb 1855
William Guest Age: 25y Bach Occ: Waterman Residence: Springfields
Son of John Guest Occ: Weaver
Sarah Jane Johnson Age:19 Spinster Residence: Springfields
Dau of Peter Johnson Occ: Boatman
Witnessed by: Rebecca morris and Charles Bunn
84/168 28th may 1862
Frederick John Cartwright Full Age: Occ: Baker Residence: Montrose Street Son of John Cartwright Occ: Potter
Maria Johnson Age: 19y Spinster Dau of Peter Johnson Occ: Boatman
Witnessed by: William Brindley and Eliza Johnson
86/171 24th july 1862
John Johnson Full Age bach Occ;Boatman Residence; North Street
Son of John Johnson deceased
Sarah Dawson Full Age Spinster Residence: North Street
Dau of James Dawson Occ: Boatman
Witnessed by: C Moseley and Jane Yardley
163/325
Michael frederick Johnson Full Age Bach Occ: Goods Guard Residence: 24 Montrose St Son of peter Johnson Occ: Boatman
Emma Bentley Spinster Residence: Montrose St dau of Thomas Bentley Occ: Brewer
Witnessed by: William Brindley and eliza Bentley
St Marys - Baptism Records
4/30 24th October 1852
Mary Jane dau of Peter Johnson and Mary Residence: Springfields
Fathers Occ: Boatman
17/129 24th October 1853
William Son of Peter and mary Johnson Residence: Springfields Fathers
Occ: Boatman
141/1125 5th July 1864
Elizabeth Dau of William and Latitia Johnson Residence: Cannock Road Fathers Occ: Boatman
You might already have the above info
Ann
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