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bestie
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Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« on: Friday 28 January 05 19:10 UTC (UK) »
Kieran Phelan possibly b. 1812. Wife Mary Anne Bergin? Lived near Kilkenny/Tip. border nr Urlingford. Children: Girl M. Dunphy, Dan, Michael, Ellen M. James Arthur Cantwell, Girl M. Cahill, William, Paddy b. 1863 M. Mary Shanahan [my grandparents]. The family of Paddy lived at Sragh in the parish of Tubridbrittain-my cousin Paddy Phelan still lives there. Burials are at Grain church. Would like to know if they appear in any tithe applotments or census details. Also are there any church records, burial marriage or christening for that parish...they were RC.
Any info. gratefully received...Jim
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 05 04:35 UTC (UK) »
I had  ancestors Phelan that I am trying to trace back - They lived in Urlingford..I have some old church records from there &  will check to see if I  can find a  reference to the people you want.  Would also appreciate any info you may have about Katy or Kitty Phelan, married to  Tom Kinahan, around  1880.  Died (young?) around 1890, leaving 2 small children.   Thanks....
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bestie
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 05 17:20 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for offering to look up those church records...Irish ancestry is difficult to access this side of the water. I've looked up my Phelan tree but don't see a Kitty or Katy and no reference to Kinahan. The line might join with Kieran's siblings but I haven't got back that far yet. many thanks...Jim
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 March 05 09:27 UTC (UK) »
Will keep trying...the location you gave is of supreme interest
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 March 05 03:16 UTC (UK) »

The booklet that I have is "FENNOR GRAVEYARD"  a listing of markers for grave  plots.  Frequently there are multiple names but the index lists only one main  name.  If any of the current names & dates match your groups; they may include  ancestral data for deeper searching.  The index lists are by dates.

From your message I extracted these basic names.
                                                           
Kieran Phelan b. 1812?                     
Wife Mary Anne Bergin                       
M. Dunphy, Dan, Michael, Ellen M.           
Ellen M. James Arthur Cantwell             
Girl M. Cahill, William,                   
Paddy b. 1863 M. Mary Shanahan [my grandparents]   
 Paddy Phelan still lives parish of Tubridbrittain

From the booklet I found :

ref                       DOD      Occupation in life
9  William Cahill    13dec1948  Catholic   EX R.I.C.     
25 Bridget Phelan    14mar1950  Catholic  farmer
30 Thomas Phelan      2oct1950  Catholic  farmer
33 Alice Cahill      20jan1950  Catholic  farmer     
74 Richard Cahill    12mar1956  Catholic  farmer     
88 Patrick Phelan    14nov1957  Catholic  farmer
55 James Cahill      25jul1953  Catholic  farmer     
139 Patrick Shanahan 28may1966  Catholic  farmer     
168 Mrs. Phelan      21jan1971  Catholic  Labourer
178 Mrs. Cahill       3may1971  Catholic  farmer     
178 William Cahill   13dec1948  Catholic  farmer     
183 Cathy Shanahan   23dec1974  Catholic  farmer     
192 James Phelan     20oct1976  Catholic  farmer     
232 Kathleen Phelan  10may1982  Catholic  farmer     

I hope something matches for you.

bill
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 March 05 10:56 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bill...thanks for the information...there are bound to be some family connections here although its often harder to trace forward than back. I don't know any relatives outside my immediate cousins so would find it hard to make a connection. From the graveyard at Grain I have a photograph of my grandfathers grave and I know his fathers grave is there too but I don't have any way of checking the details...here's the one I have got...PATRICK PHELAN of Sragh died 17th June 1936 (born 1863?) his wife MARY ANN died 30th May 1937, their son KIERAN died 4th August 1971 daughter MARGARET died 20th Jan 1974. If anyone can visit that churchyard...I'd love to have more details...Thanks again. Jim
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny/Graine/Fennor
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 April 05 18:27 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bill...I made the trip to Graine and found lots of Phelan graves. Margaret Phelan (Bergin) D.29 Aug 1879 aged 47. But her husband KIERAN PHELAN of Goresgrove isn't buried there. His son Patrick and Mary Anne (Shanahan) Phelan who died 1936 & 37 respectively are there with 3 of their 12 children. There is also a Michael Phelan of Goresgrove D. 1903 and his wife Johanna (Hennessey) D.1889 with Bridget Phelan D. 1938 aged 58. Another grave has John Phelan D. 1877 aged 83 Mary (Campion) D. 1880 aged 79, brother Patrick who died in America and son Nicholas Phelan of Ballynascary D. 1909 aged 73...his son Edmund D. America. And another...Ellen Phelan of Tubrid D. 1956 aged 87 and son John Phelan D. 1966 aged 63. I was told that some of the family are buried at Fennor...the Shanahans and maybe KIERAN PHELAN...I believe his dates to be 1812 to 1912...but could be wrong...so if anyone has access to the burial lists at Fennor I would appreciate a look up...Thanks. Jim
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Re: Look up Phelan in Kilkenny
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 February 07 19:55 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: billkin40 on Sunday 13 March 05 03:16 UTC (UK)

The booklet that I have is "FENNOR GRAVEYARD"  a listing of markers for grave  plots.  Frequently there are multiple names but the index lists only one main  name.  If any of the current names & dates match your groups; they may include  ancestral data for deeper searching.  The index lists are by dates.

From your message I extracted these basic names.
                                                           
Kieran Phelan b. 1812?                     
Wife Mary Anne Bergin                       
M. Dunphy, Dan, Michael, Ellen M.           
Ellen M. James Arthur Cantwell             
Girl M. Cahill, William,                   
Paddy b. 1863 M. Mary Shanahan [my grandparents]   
 Paddy Phelan still lives parish of Tubridbrittain

From the booklet I found :

ref                       DOD      Occupation in life
9  William Cahill    13dec1948  Catholic   EX R.I.C.     
25 Bridget Phelan    14mar1950  Catholic  farmer
30 Thomas Phelan      2oct1950  Catholic  farmer
33 Alice Cahill      20jan1950  Catholic  farmer     
74 Richard Cahill    12mar1956  Catholic  farmer     
88 Patrick Phelan    14nov1957  Catholic  farmer
55 James Cahill      25jul1953  Catholic  farmer     
139 Patrick Shanahan 28may1966  Catholic  farmer     
168 Mrs. Phelan      21jan1971  Catholic  Labourer
178 Mrs. Cahill       3may1971  Catholic  farmer     
178 William Cahill   13dec1948  Catholic  farmer     
183 Cathy Shanahan   23dec1974  Catholic  farmer     
192 James Phelan     20oct1976  Catholic  farmer     
232 Kathleen Phelan  10may1982  Catholic  farmer     

I hope something matches for you.

bill

Hello Bill, im doing my family research in this very area of Ireland. I still have family in Fennor and Urlingford but unfortunatley they are old, bad memories. So im having difficulty finding where my families graves are - im not sure which graveyrd to search in. I was told to look in Fennor graveyard so Nov 2006 off i goes to Ireland full of expectations, found my grandfathers,grandmother, great aunts graves but no luck on any further back, ive since heard of other graveyards like Graine&Rathbeg (where my father was born)!!!
In your post you mentioned "Fennor graveyard" listings booklet, how could i obtain this Huh A lot of the graves were unreadable in Fennor due to age and this listings booklet would answer some questions.
Any information on these grave yards would be a great help.
Regards Pat Callaghan.

Researching names - Callaghan, Cody, Nolan, Maloney, Grace Armstrong, Whelan, Norris, Brennan - all from the Urlingford/Fennor area`s.
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Callaghan/O`Callaghan and Cody/Coady, Nolan/Nowlan, Grace, Mahoney, Armstrong, Grattan, Carter of Fennor & Rathbeg & the parish of Gortnahoe, Co. Tipperary.
Urlingford town & Urlingford parish. Co.Kilkenny. Ireland.
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