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McVitie
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1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« on: Monday 08 September 08 12:34 UTC (UK) »


Hello to you

Would be most grateful if anyone would be so kind to see if my gt gt gt grandfather's family were in any of the above census of Kilmuir (Isle of Skye).

I've managed to get details of the family in the 1841 census:-

Ronald Macdonald - age 56 Tenant (gt gt grandfather)
Margaret  49 wife
Donald   28 Joiner
Janet 25
Annabella 20
Binny 15
Alex 13
Angus 14
James 9

Any information on Ronald's family would be gratefully received.
Kind regards

Mcvitie


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 September 08 12:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi McVitie Smiley



There is a Ronald McDonald (b. North Uist)  and Wife Magaret of the approx correct ages living Kilmuir,  in 1851 with a  daughter Alice, aged 30

If you think if might be them, I'll put up the info.


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 September 08 12:57 UTC (UK) »

Here's the 1851 to see what you think:

Holl, Kilmuir, Skye

Reg Dist 112 ED 2 Page 5

Ronald McDonald, 65, farmer of 35 acres employing 2 servants, b. North Uist
Margret, 63, b. Portree
Alice, 30, b. Kilmuir
Margaret McLeod, grdda,9, b. Kilmuir
William Martin serv, 26, farm srvant, b. Kilmuir
John McQuin, 18, farm servant, b. Kilmuir
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:04 UTC (UK) »

Can't see them in 1861 as yet - nearest is Sleat but that's the complete opposite end of the Island. have you checked for deaths?

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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:11 UTC (UK) »

1861

Donald must be dead:

3 Dilista, Kilmuir
Reg Dist 112 ED 2 Page 8

Margaret MacDonald, 68, farm of 18 acres, b. Portree
Alice, d, 37, gneral servant. b. Kilmuir
Benny, d, 35,  general servant, b.Snizort
Ronald,grds, 9, b. Portree
Mary Gillies, grdd, 5, b. Kilmuir

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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:19 UTC (UK) »

Hello Gadget

Thanks for your 'swift' response.

It's very interesting that Ronald has a farm of 35 acres - on his son Angus's death cert in 1901, it states that his father, Ronald, was a 'Ground Officer' but it didn't say where. Certainly having 35 acres would seem to match the title of a 'GO', but not sure where his other children have got to? Also interesting they are in North Uist, as their son Angus married in Harris, in 1855, which is quite near to NU, so they must have moved from Skye at some point after 1841 census.

Regarding the 1861 census, they seem to have moved back to Skye, and the names shown certainly fits the family, as their 2nd eldest daughter was called 'Binny' in the 1841 census and is now Benny, which seems likely to be her.

Dilista was also the place on the 1841 census - but I can't locate that place on a map?

Thanks for all your help here.

Mcvitie
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi McVitie

I mixed up his birth place and residence on the 1851 Embarrassed . He  was living Kilmuir, Skye and have amended it.

This was a period of clearances and enclosures in many parts of Skye and the rest of the Highlands . Ground Officer might have been either a 'tackman' or even a ghillie.

I think it's the correct family as Alice is on both censuses.

I'll check for a death - hopefully after 1855.


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:29 UTC (UK) »

Looks as if Ronald died before 1855. I can't find a death  Sad
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi  Gadget

Thanks for the clarification - so Ronald was born Kilmuir, Skye, which now at least certainly makes things clearer.

Although Alice doesn't appear in the 1841 census, it's a name that was given to my nan, Alice Mary Alex Maclean born Benbecula 1901, and we could never find out why Alice had been given as her first name - her mother Mary Bell Macdonald was Angus's daughter, and lo and behold Angus had an aunt Alice! Think you may have solved the missing link here Gadget - great stuff.

Thanks also for checking on Ronald's death - pity he wasn't post 1855 but at least his wife Margaret was alive so she should be on Scotlands People...

Many thanks

Mcvitie
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 September 08 13:55 UTC (UK) »

No - Ronald was living Kilmuir Skye in 1851. On that census it says he was born North Uist.

I'll see if I can find something on Alice for you - could she be the Annabella, even  Undecided


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 September 08 14:04 UTC (UK) »

In 1871, it looks as if Alice might be living in South Uist with a Macmillan family headed by a Malcolm Macmillan. She's down as 'sister'. He's married to a Christina  I'll investigate later as I have to go out now. It looks very strange if it is the correct family.


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 September 08 14:07 UTC (UK) »

My brain's not in gear Gadget! Thanks again for clarifying - he was born a NU man, and moved at some point to Skye - and married a girl from Portree.

Yes indeed, Alice could well have been Annabella - it could be down to what the enumerator heard/interpreted? The 1871 South Uist connection is certainly an interesting route - thanks for searching here.

Kind regards
Mcvitie
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 September 08 14:13 UTC (UK) »

Problem solved - I've now checked the image - it was all wrongly indexed  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

They are next on the page after the Macmillans and someone has grouped them together!


This is the correct entry:

1871
Griminish, S Uist
118/1 ED 4 page 6

Head of family absent, Joiner and Crofter,
Alex Macdonald, s, 16, joiner's son, b. Harris
Ranald, 13, Joiner's son, b. Harris
Kenneth, 11, Joiner's son, b. South Uist
Donald, 9,Joiner's son, b. S Uist
Margaret, 7, Joiner's daughter, b. S Uist
Mary, 5, Joiner's daughter. b. S Uist
Alice, sister, 49, b. Kilmuir, Skye
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 September 08 14:15 UTC (UK) »

North Uist to Skye is not far - Uig to Lochmaddy only a few hours nowadays - did it myself a while ago  Cheesy
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:01 UTC (UK) »

Think I have the family of the 'absent' head in 1861:

South Uist - Reg District - Benbecula
118 ED 5 Page 11

Angus Macdonald, 32, miller and joiner, b. isle of Skye
Mary, 30, b. Kintail
Ronald, 4,
Kenneth, 2
Mary Ann, 6 months,
Peggy MacIsaac, 20, servant
Alexander Wilson, 14, servant

All b. South Uist unless stated.

This might well be Angus aged 14 on the 1841
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