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Gadget
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:12 UTC (UK) »

I have a possible birth date for Kenneth, aged 2 in 1861:

IGI (extracted)

Kenneth MacDonald, South Uist. b. 17 May 1859

Parents - Angus MacDonald and Mary Macrae

also Ronald/Ranald, aged 4 - same parents:

Ranald MacDonald, Harris. b. 18 Sept 1856

I'm thinking that Ranald is far more likely than Ronald for your original person.

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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #16 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gadget

Thanks for all your help here - the 1871 Benbecula census is definitely my 2x grandfather Angus, Ronald's son, as Angus was a joiner/carpenter. The children also appear the same as the 1881 census, so everything ties in nicely.

Angus was indeed a miller in Lionacleit, Benbecula, and so the 1861 you kindly found him in is most definitely him, as his wife was Mary Macrae, from Harris.

I have never managed to get across to the Western Isles, but have spent a lot of my summer hols in Ardvasar, Sleat, Skye where my dad was born into the Kennedys there. I must try to get up to Kilmuir though, since it would seem Ronald, the Ground Officer, may have a grave up there, but whether he had a headstone is probably doubtful, but they were in charge of a lot of land so who knows....maybe he was buried in the same graveyard as the famous Flora!

Thanks for helping me piece this all together Gadget - I've learned a great deal in just a matter of a few hours.

Kind regards

Mcvitie



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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:18 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy

Just found the marriage of Angus to Mary


Benbecula, 12 Dec 1854. it's an IGI submitted entry so will need checking and nothing in the OPRs. Were they Roman Catholic?


Do you need any more info on the family?


Gadget

PS - I was in that part of Skye over Easter - it was very wet - you could see across to Harris very clearly though
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #18 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:26 UTC (UK) »

You're in luck  Cheesy

Ranald MacDonald, farmer, died 5 May 1856, Dilista, Kilmuir. Aged 72

Parents - Angus Macdonald and Janet, m.s. Macdonald both Deceased

Cause - palpitations of the heart - 4 weeks

Informant - A MacDonald, son


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #19 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:31 UTC (UK) »

I just got your last replies Gadget - funnily enough it actually states on Angus' death cert in 1901, that his father was called 'Ranald' - I agree with you that this is more likely his name, than Ronald.

The marraige of Angus and Mary is a real find - I tried without success. The only reference I could get to it was actually on the birth cert of their daughter Mary Bell in 1866, but this is slightly conflicting to your IGI find in that it says they married on 14th Dec 1855, in Borve, Harris. As to their religion, I always thought they were COS, only because Mary Bell married a Maclean in Benbecula, but it wasn't a catholic one.

And I've just got your last reply - superb Gadget, you found his death cert! This beats the lot, and I can't thank you enough. I'll get on to the SP site without delay!!!

Cheers
Mcvitie



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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #20 on: Monday 08 September 08 15:36 UTC (UK) »


The marriage was only a submitted one - it's more likely that the daughter's birth cert was correct.

It could be common law so wouldn't show.  Will have another look.
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #21 on: Monday 08 September 08 16:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

You're in luck yet again  Cool

Alexander Macdonald, son of Angus and Mary,  was b. March 1855. Little Bour (?), Harris. It was an 1855 cert so there is more info.

Marriage info for his parents is 1854, Harris. I still can't see it so it is most likely common law - it was legal though  Smiley

I'll be in touch.


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:05 UTC (UK) »


Wow Gadget, so much luck in 1 day!!

Thanks for the certificate - it certainly helps to back up his parents marriage year. I'm very interested about this maybe being 'common law'  - I've not come across such a situation as yet - most intriguing.

I wonder if the marriage place of 'Little Bour', is 'Borve', as in the birth cert for his other daughter Mary. I'll have a google at Harris maps.

Thanks for your continued help Gadget.

Regards
Mcvite
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:49 UTC (UK) »

Here's a bit about marriages in Scotland:

http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=8397

There are lots of threads on here which mention Scottish marriage forms.


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:53 UTC (UK) »

Just wondering if it could be Na Buirgh on the West side of Harris:

Click here for map


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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:04 UTC (UK) »


Thanks for the links Gadget - interesting read too about the marraiges. You may well be right in Little Bour being 'Na Buirgh - does'nt 'Na' mean small/little in Gaelic?

Cheers
McV
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:17 UTC (UK) »

Not sure - I though it meant The.  Beag is small.

Buirgh  would be pronounced something like Bo-ur, though.
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Re: 1851/61/71 Inverness census lool up please
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:32 UTC (UK) »


Yes you're right Gadget - Beag imeans small in Gaelic - I shall speak to my dad tonight for a translation.

Cheers

McV
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