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Re: Robert Bentley
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 September 08 21:45 BST (UK) »

In 1881:

Rg11 2821 22 41
Little Bloxwich
James Stockley 49 Colliry Labourer
Hannah 49 wife
Joseph 22
William 20
Hannah 15
Elizabeth 12
James 10
Martha 3

all bn Little Bloxwich

and .... about 3 doors away is
Walter Chappel 19 lodger Boatman

so Elizabeth really did marry "the boy next door" !
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 08 September 08 21:48 BST (UK) »

And I wonder if this is Margaret Bates
RG11 2821 153 42
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« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 September 08 22:02 BST (UK) »

i have this for when William was 5 months old:

William Stockley
born abt 1860
Son
Father   Jas
Mother Anna
born: Little Bloxwich
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« Reply #18 on: Monday 08 September 08 22:04 BST (UK) »

then theres

William Stockley
20
abt 1861
Son
Father's    James
Mother's    Hannah
born: Little Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England

Are they 2 differnet william stockleys born in 1860 about etc?
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 10:54 BST (UK) »

Not quite with you

What you have just posted is the 1881 census details, that I had given before - same person, same family, same household.

The 1861 one you have found looks very much like the same family - Hannah and Anna are often mixed.

by the way - it looks as if you have "cut and pasted" the census details from the index of another site - this actually breaches copyright. Although the information itself is not copyrighted, the sites themselves are - hence you should not pass on the info in a cut and paste form, but type it up in your own words, so to speak. (the ones I typed up for you were as I read the image, not just the index)
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 11:53 BST (UK) »

what i mean is that there is a william Stockley registered on both census - but with different (similar) named parents

Anna / hannah
jas / james

also williams sister is registered as Ellen / Elizabeth on both census...

Could this be mis spellings or simply that there is 2 different William Stockleys born in the same year in same area etc?

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:28 BST (UK) »

Jas is a recognised abbreviation for James
Hannah and Anna are frequently interchanged

Are there two JAmes Stockleys iwith the same families in Little Bloxwith ever on the SAME census at the same time? That would prove there are two families with Willams.

I havent looked closley but on the censuses I have looked at there are only one,so I am pretty sure there is just the one family.
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:31 BST (UK) »

ooh thank you Liz

Its quite alot of logical working out with these things isnt it Smiley

I will have a closer look this afternoon thank you so much..

Now onto Robert Bentley hahaha!!!
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:41 BST (UK) »

phew - finallly got th efamily in 1871 (indexed Stanley)

RG10 2959 38 26
Little Bloxwich
JAmes Stockley 40 Ag lab
Hannah 39
Joseph 12
William 10
Emma 8
Hannah 6
Elizabeth 3
James 4mth  all children bn Lt Bl
James Smith brother in law 32 Ag lab
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:46 BST (UK) »

Marriage
Ap/May/Jun 1851
Penkridge Staffs reg district
ref 17 153
James Stockley
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 12:57 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for that - you are all so helpful on here!!

I wish there was some way i could repay you!!
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 13:06 BST (UK) »

Well done Liz,with finding Amelia's family,but it didn't get us any nearer finding Robert did it  Grin

Sonstar PM'd me yesterday about him ,but like you I had no luck finding him.

I was surprised that someone who was Jesse's brother ie born around 1860 ish would have married someone called Brenda.There are less than 20 in the whole country up till about 1900.

More popular a surname in Scotland I believe.

I also suggested that Sonstar buy that 1907 marriage cert to confirm that we are indeed chasing the right Bentley family.

Let us know when you have it Sonia, and Liz and I will start looking for them again  Grin Grin

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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 13:16 BST (UK) »

thank you carol and liz Smiley i appreciate your help!!

im slowly piecing it together - mums seem to be easier to trace.

Ie my great grandmother Amelia Rosetta Stockley has been easier to trace right through to the Chappel thing we found - ie that the Chappels lived near the Stockleys and one ended up marrying a Chappel. Smiley

I am struggling so much with Jesse - I have at least some info on where he lived in 1911 - but i cant work out if the birth record for Bradford is him or not!!

Robert owned/ran a wool mill in Bradford area and he married a lady called Brenda- but they may not have married until the mid 1900's - im not 100% sure... all i know is that Robert & Brenda lived at 12 sandals Road, Baildon, Shipley around the 1950s as Mabel Jones ( my grandfathers sister) went to visit them!!!
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 13:20 BST (UK) »

Hi Carol!!

Didnt know you were working on this one too.

I too wondered about the name Brenda, I wonder if it WAS Robert (bro of Jesse) who married the Brenda, rather than someone in the next generation (as indeed the original post on this thread said) - you know as well as I how often famly stories get attached to the wrong person!

We will see. If Sonstar gets Jesse's marriage cert in 1907 it will give us a fathers name and occupation (hopefully!) and we can go from there.

I wonder if there were any more children of the Jesse/Amelia marriage? Married 1907, children 1912, 1914 and 1923. I just wondered if the elusive Robert could actually be of this generation and born 1907-1912.
But that would make him a brother of Sonstars grandad, who is still laive, so he should know!
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 09 September 08 13:25 BST (UK) »

Can Mabel Jones remember how old Robert and Brenda were when she visited them? If Robert was a sibling of Jesse they would be quite elderly by then. Jesse himself (if still alive) would be celebrating his golden wedding in 1957....
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