kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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John Stoodly (Stoodley) married Hester Moody 20/03/1797 Sherfield English. Witnesses were Stephen Moody & John White. (Not sure what relationship Stephen Moody is (if any))
John was described as a sojourner (not of this parish). Hester's parents were Isaac & Martha (nee Parrick, I believe)
The couple lived in Mottisfont and had the following children:
Anna 1800
William Bapt 1805 - ?
George Bapt 1805 - 1866
Mary Bapt 1805 - ?
James Bapt 1807 - ?
Martha 1809 - 1899
Charles 1812 - 1815 (d. Alverstoke)
They then move to Alverstoke and have 1 more child (Phoeby in 1814). (John's occupation is a Carpenter. Hester dies after the birth of Pheoby in 1814.
George & Martha return to Mottisfont and live with their aunt & uncle John & Elizabeth Leach.
John dies in the Alverstoke Poor House and is buried in 1836 (age given as 69). Alverstoke Poor House records have not survived.
My questions/puzzles are:
1. Where was John from ? Could he have moved to Alverstoke/Clayhall as moving back to his place of birth ? Or was it to do with the Napoleonic Wars ?
Are there any records at the Portsmouth Record Office that might assist in putting a bit more on the bones for him ? The family were living in Clayhall - could he have worked at Haslar ?
2. What happened to William, Mary & James ? They do not appear in the Mottisfont or Alverstoke burial registers. (Additional info: There is a James Stoodly in Portsmouth in 1841 but I do not believe this is the same one)
3. I believe that Elizabeth Leach is perhaps Hester's sister as she states born in Sherfield (English) on the 1851 census (aged 76). She dies in 1856. However she does seem to appear on the IGI for Sherfield. Can anyone track her down to show her link to John & Hester ?
Grateful please for fresh pairs of eyes. Any assistance and advice is much appreciated. Kanskar
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Little Nell
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Hi Kanskar
Q3 first:
John Leach married Elizabeth Moody 27 Mar 1799 in Michelmersh. But I can't find either Hester or Elizabeth's baptisms.  Isaac Moody married Martha Parrick 17 Oct 1763 in East Dean.
Q1: no luck finding a baptism for John.
John and Hester's children were Anna, William George (one child), Mary (seemingly his twin), James, Martha and Charles. And possibly a Hester in 1803.
A Stephen Parrick married a Martha Moody in East Dean in 1771.
Stoodley/Studley seems to occur around the Dorset border, so maybe look there for John's origins.
Nell
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kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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Nell,
1. Thank you for finding the marriage of John & Elizabeth. Michelmersh, I might have known  . Back to Winchester, I think, to find the witnesses.
Hester is on the IGI (as Heastr) - Elizabeth is not there (at least for Sherfield). I have looked at the Sherfield fiches in Winchester - some of the Sherfield entries are impossible to read in the late 1770s. Would it be worth asking to look at the original register to see if anything is legible ?
I think 3 children were baptised at the same time in 1805 - the Mottisfont register has them bracketed together.
Can you advise please on the possible source for Hester in 1803 ?
I know that there are plenty of Stoodleys on the Dorset/Somerset border, but I know that there appears to be a batch of them in the Fareham/Gosport/Portsmouth area in the Mid-18thc - hence my thought that John might be connected to them (and the reason behind my idea of him returning home)
Kanskar
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kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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Nell - Thanks for your help and advice on the register query. Kanskar
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kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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Toni - Thanks for your reply.
Just to re-confirm - the family moved to Alverstoke before his wife died.
It is only my hunch that they went there because it was where he was originally from.
However your notes on Poor Relief is noted. I do not know whether records still survive at Portsmouth or Winchester.
Kanskar
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. I do not know whether records still survive at Portsmouth or Winchester.
Kanskar
i do not know either sorry maybe the RO wil be able to help?
http://www.portsmouthrecordsoffice.co.uk/
http://www3.hants.gov.uk/archives
i mentioned the poor relief as the parish would only give so much before 'removing' the person to the workhouse, i know this from first hand experience, as 'your' John died in the workhouse i wondered if the above was relative.
however the workhouse was sometimes the only access / resource to medical care a person could get so this may be the reason he died there.
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Little Nell
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I thought of the settlement records as well. With a name like Stoodley/Studley, it would show up in the catalogue at Hampshire Record Office - searchable here:
http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServeA/
But there did not seem to be anything obvious. Portsmouth Record Office keep the poor records for their area so they may be the best place to look into this possibility.
Nell
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kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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Nell/Toni - Thank you for your suggestions. I will follow them up. I have previously checked the CALM DB for Stoodley/Studley - nothing there that relates to John.
A Stephen Moody was a witness to John & Hester's marriage. Could he have been Hester & Elizabeth's brother ? Did Isaac & Martha have any children baptised at East Dean ?
Many Thanks
Kanskar
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Little Nell
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I can find the following baptisms in East Dean:
James 27 Jul 1764
Phoebe 20 Mar 1766
parents Isaac & Martha.
Nell
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kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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Nell - Thank you for the info. Looks like if Stephen is a brother - he is born elsewhere in the immediate area. I'll have a look on the IGI and let you know if he appears on there (I appreciate that not all parishes are listed e.g East Dean) but it is worth an initial try.
Kanskar
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kanskar
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Robert Kirk c1890
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Nell,
The Poor Rate books for Alverstoke only start from 1838 - two years after John Stoodley died.
There are a court book (jurors presentments) and Board of Guardians books. What might they show please that could assist me in my search ?
Thanks Kanskar
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Agnes and Frederick Stoodly C1910
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From the Sherfield English Parish register: -
Hester dau of Isack and Marthara Moody 26 February 1775.
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