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Topic: Hulse Family, Burton on Trent / Scotland (Read 1327 times)
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keigcf
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Hi I am trying to trace a Henry William Hulse, I have his marriage 31/8/1857 at Duthil in Scotland to Mary Grant where he lists his residence as Burton on Trent, he being a 34 yr old widower and a gamekeeper. I can not find this previous wedding of his at all. He is not on the 1861 census with his wife and child, I can not find also a birth certif for him! Any idea's of where else to look? I have got a death certif 8/6/1884 of a Henry William Hulse age 61 gamekeeper, which sounds right, but its in Tranmere Birkenhead, so not 100%! Any idea's very much appreciated
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CaroleW
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Are his parents names shown on the marriage cert
HENRY WILLIAM HULSE Birth: 17 JUN 1822
Christening: 30 SEP 1822 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, Father: JOHN HULSE Mother: SARAH ANN
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keigcf
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No, his parents aren't shown on the wedding certif, and I would never have found a birth certif if he was from Surrey, he really moved around if thats him!!!!!!
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CaroleW
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Got him on the English 1851
Henry Hulse 31 married occ gamekeeper b Braunston Staffordshire
He was a visitor at 73 John St Derbyshire with the Rowland family but no wife shown
HO107; Piece: 2143; Folio: 133; Page: 27
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keigcf
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Haven't sorted out all the Mary Grants, on the one census there are 2 mary grants and Mary Hulse who was a Grant. Also a Jane Ross, daughter of a Mary Grant, very confusing! I did find a Henry Hulse on the 1871 Welsh census, living as a married Game keeper with Anne Davies at Lower Caio Carmarthanshire. I'm just unsure how can you possibly know if its the right Henry with him moving around so much, I also find it strange him and Mary had no more children, you would have thought he'd have visited to see his son. Thank you so much for your help I seemed to be hitting a brick wall!
Kathryn
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CaroleW
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Hi
The occupation of gamekeeper is not a common or garden one and coupled with his name I think you can be reasonably certain the entries are the right ones - but he certainly did get around didn't he
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keigcf
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Checked using the IGI way for siblings and found a Augustus Fredrick Christened 31/7/1825 with the same parents, I will look on Ancestry for him and see where that takes me!
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pc99
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There is a Braunston in Leicestershire but not in Staffordshire.
Suggest that it is Branston, Burton upon Trent !
Regards
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CaroleW
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Hi
The image definitely says Staffs and the place starts Braun - the s is questionable but the ton is legible
If you Google Braunston - it comes up with Rutland, Warwickshire and Northamptonshire but no mention of Staffordshire
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claireandsi
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I would say that it is probably the same person. I have a lot of gamekeepers and gardeners in my tree and they did move around quite a bit. It seems they moved around from estate to estate, probably for a better position on a bigger estate.
I also think the placename is meant to be Branston (or Branstone) near Burton on Trent in Staffs. I have seen it spelt many different ways on censuses etc.
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keigcf
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I would have liked it if had visited his wife sometime!, and hopefully have another child
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chrianne
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Hi there, I have just seen your posting and wondered if you had tried looking using other spelling variations.
You probably have I'm sure. Its just that I have ancestors with the name HULLS and they have been transcribed as HULSE on several occasions so thought maybe your HULSE could have been transcribed as HULLS.
Just a thought. You've probably already found them.
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Hobson, Straw, Day, Sellers, Pilkington, Martin, Allen, Dyson, Temperton, Bowley, Coats, Hanks, Beagley, Follows, Barsby, Turner, Hulls, Headley, Curtis, Burrows, Gilbert, Wardle, Ellis
Yorkshire, Leicester
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keigcf
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I haven't found anything else about him at the moment. I'd love a wedding certificate for his first marriage/ death of wife, and a birth certif would be heaven!
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chrianne
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Unfortunately I can't help you out either. So far my HULLS are from Melton Mowbray and Leicester. Although I haven't got that far back with them yet.
I know how frustrating it is when you can't find an ancestor, I have one just like it 
I do hope you have a breakthrough soon.
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Hobson, Straw, Day, Sellers, Pilkington, Martin, Allen, Dyson, Temperton, Bowley, Coats, Hanks, Beagley, Follows, Barsby, Turner, Hulls, Headley, Curtis, Burrows, Gilbert, Wardle, Ellis
Yorkshire, Leicester
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