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fionakennedyarnold
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WEBB/WINDSOR
« on: Sunday 14 September 08 10:04 UTC (UK) »

Hello all,

I'm trying to locate some information about two families from the Somerset region.

Firstly is Alfred WEBB b. c 1824, South Barrow, Somerset. I need to find out his parents and siblings if possible.

I have the 1871 and 1881 census for him and his wife and children. On the 1881 census are two WEBB girls listed as "other" - Harriet and Annie, both born in South Barrow also - so I was wanting to know who they belonged to.

Alfred married Jemima WIN(D)SOR b. 19 Dec 1844, Queen Camel, Somerset. Parents were Job WIN(D)SOR and Ruth? I have 4 siblings from 1881 census and the IGI; Amelia, Harriet, George and Sarah Payne. I was wanting to know if anyone has access to prior census to add to these.

Also parents birth/marriage details if available, Job WIN(D)SOR b. 1815, Queen Camel, Somerset and Ruth b. 1819, West Camel, Somerset.

Hoping this all makes sense to you...

Fiona

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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 September 08 10:29 UTC (UK) »

it looks like harriet and Annie from 1881 are the daughters of Henry and Jemima
On original image under relationship it does not say "other" - it says nothing at all - I suspect the enumerator just missed off the relationship
In 1891 harriet is a servant and not with the family -but Anne is still at home
1891
8 Newtown
Wells
Somerset
Alfred webb Head m 52 railway lab S Barrow
Jemima wife 46 Queen Camel
Anne A daughter 11 scholar S Barrow
Ernest W J son 9 Coxley? Somerset
Ethel Florence daughter 7 Coxley
Ethel M daughter Coxley
RG12 1914 29 2

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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 September 08 10:31 UTC (UK) »

Snap Suz!

What puzzles me is that Alfred is 42 in 1881 and 50 in 1891, so much younger than expected Huh
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"

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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 September 08 10:41 UTC (UK) »

yes, Tati ,

I was just going to ask if Fiona has the d.o.b. incorrect.

I read his age as 52 in 1891 and have him in 1851 age 12,1841 age 2

We'd better wait for Fiona replying - as there is an Alfred Webb b.c. 1824 -but he's not married to jemima?Huh??

Suz
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 September 08 10:58 UTC (UK) »

I trust it's the right family but the dates are incorrect ... Jemima's parents are Job and Ruth too:

1851
HO107/1931 13 18
Queen Camel, Somerset

Job Windsor, head, 35, Ag lab, b. Queen Camel
Ruth, wife, 31, b. West Camel
Amelia, dau, 11, Glover, b. do.
Harriet, dau, 8, scholar, b. Queen Camel
Jemima, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
Luke, son, 4, scholar, b. West Camel
Kitty, dau, 2, scholar, b. Yeovil
Absolom, son, 1 mo, b. Queen Camel
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:01 UTC (UK) »


Hello all

If we are looking at Alfred b. South Barrow and Jemima Quuen camel, then I think this is the marriage:

Q2. 1865  Wincanton  Vol. 5c  P. 1001

And if these are the two, then Jemima was b. 1845 and Alfred 1839.

In 1871 there is a Silas Webb living with them b. 1837

In 1841 Silas 1837 and Alfred 1839 appear together in this family,  albeit Weeb not Webb  Huh
HO107. P. 937 / 5  Fol. -  Pg. 13

South Barrow
WEEB
William  35  Ag Lab
Mary  35
Robert  14  Ag Lab
John  12  Ag Lab
Richard  9
William  7
Silas  4
Alfred  2

all born county

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fionakennedyarnold
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Guys,

The birth date for Alfred I have is from the 1881 census, I also have the 1871 census but it's too unclear for me to decipher properly.... as for the birthdate of Jemima - that comes from IGI extracted record and freebmd data.

I personaly find in bizarre to have a guy nearly twenty years older than his wife!
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:06 UTC (UK) »

But he's shown as 42 in 1881  Huh
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:08 UTC (UK) »

Okay - I'm a dope - it is 1839 according to age on 1881 census!!!
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:18 UTC (UK) »

Lots of kids chez les Windsor!  Shocked

1861
RG9/1647 52 14
Queen Camel, Somerset
Back Road

Job Windsor, head, 44, Ag Lab, b. Queen Camel
Ruth, wife, 41, b. West Camel
Emilia, dau, 21, Glover, leather, b. do.
Harriet, dau, 18, ditto, b. Queen Camel
Jemima, dau, 16, ditto, b. do.
Luke, son, 14, Ag lab, b. West Camel
Kitty, dau, 12, Glover Leather, b. Yeovil
Absalom, son, 10, Ag lab, b. Queen Camel
Alfred, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
Levi, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Henry, son, 3, scholar, b. do.
Sarah P. do, dau, 8 mo, b. do.
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:22 UTC (UK) »

Wow - thats almost ridiculous!
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:28 UTC (UK) »



Webb family 1851:

HO107 .  P. 1931  Fol. 106  Pg. 6

South Barrow, Somerset

WEBB
William  Head  Wid.  50  Ag Lab
Alfred  Son  12
Samuel  Son  9
Mary A  dau  5

all born South Barrow

Death reg:  Mary Webb Q4. 1849  Wincanton
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:39 UTC (UK) »

This family seems to be growing also.... just checked the IGI for marriages of William Webb and Mary and Job Windsor and Ruth - no luck yet

Fiona
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:48 UTC (UK) »



I can't see marriages on the IGI either, but found this on FHOL:

Marriage 8 June 1824 South Barrow
William Webb, otp and Mary Blagdon, otp.
Witnessess George Pickford an Emily Mills
All made their mark

The birth reg. for Alfred and Jemima are:

Alfred Webb  Q4. 1838  Wincanton  Vol. 10  Pg. 491

Jemima Windsor  Q2. 1845  Wincanton  Vol. 10  Pg. 531

These will confirm mother's maiden names  Cheesy
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Re: WEBB/WINDSOR
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 September 08 11:52 UTC (UK) »

This looks like the marriage reg mistranscribed on FreeBMD

Jun qtr 1839
Yeovil
Job Winson
Ruth Payne
10 947

(one of the daughters had the middle name Payne!)

1841
Queen Camel
Job Winsor ag lab 25
Ruth 21
Emelyn (female) 2 -think possibly should be Amelia?
all b in county
HO107 937 1010 13

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