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Lass
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Hi everyone
In the course of investigation, I've found that a couple of ancestors were married at Dunnottar House, Dunnottar. I wanted to see if I could find any pictures of it, but nothing has turned up - google brings up nothing but the castle. Google maps, on the other hand, takes me straight to Dunnottar House without batting an eyelid. I'm wondering if this is a 'new' Dunnottar House after the demise of the original. Can anyone point me in a helpful direction to find an image of the house?
Thanks!
Lass x
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Piglet01
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http://www.mearns.org.uk/stonehaven/dunwood.htm
Gives a passing reference to the House being built in 1806.
Am away to the NLS and shall get an old map reference.
Regards, Steve :O)
http://www.nls.uk/maps/os/oneinch_1st_list.html
will take you to the first edition of the OS maps - go to sheet 67 for Stonehaven and zoom in - Dunottar House is inland from the castle.
If you haven't used the site before - once you've got the image sized the way you like it do a right click to save.
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Borders: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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Lass
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http://www.mearns.org.uk/stonehaven/dunwood.htmGives a passing reference to the House being built in 1806. Am away to the NLS and shall get an old map reference. Regards, Steve :O) http://www.nls.uk/maps/os/oneinch_1st_list.htmlwill take you to the first edition of the OS maps - go to sheet 67 for Stonehaven and zoom in - Dunottar House is inland from the castle. If you haven't used the site before - once you've got the image sized the way you like it do a right click to save.
Thanks so much Steve- the link works fine for me, but when I try to open the sheet, I get a new window says web page could not be displayed...... is it just me?? I can't understand why it's happening, I've tried going to the sheet from the map too, but no joy........
I had seen the passing reference to the House in the mention of the woods, but like I say, I've just been totally unable to find an image which is frustrating me!
Lass x
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Piglet01
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Just back off the NLS site - went in via Google rather than the link and also come up with the white screen, so must be their server..... Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Borders: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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mitchell
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Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures but found this in "The Haven under the Hill" by Elizabeth Christie -
1806 - Dunottar House was built
1814 - Lord William Kennedy married Eleanor Allardice and took up residence
1835 - House changed hands, to General Nathaniel Forbes
1851 - House passed on to his son, Charles William Mackay Forbes
1901 - Property sold to William Ritchie
After William Ritchie's death, the house was let to several tenants until it eventually was reduced to rubble. "Dunottar House had a beautiful walled garden which was well known for its magnificent flowers and vegetables and for the gardeners who produced them, Messrs. McHardy and Mitchell"
A couple of links for Stonehaven research which might be useful -
http://www.stonehaven-heritage.org/content/index.asp
http://www.geocities.com/thistleinn/index.html
Elaine
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Mitchell, Turner, Henderson, Archibald, Smith, Walker, Burgess, Alexander, Margetts, Joss - Aberdeenshire Proctor, Morrison, Henderson, Burgess, McWilliam, Green, Grant, Young, Dey, Allan - Banffshire Proctor, Logie, Grant - Moray McRae - Ross & Cromarty and Invernesshire Clunie, Philp - Fife Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk |
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Lass
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Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures but found this in "The Haven under the Hill" by Elizabeth Christie - 1806 - Dunottar House was built 1814 - Lord William Kennedy married Eleanor Allardice and took up residence 1835 - House changed hands, to General Nathaniel Forbes 1851 - House passed on to his son, Charles William Mackay Forbes 1901 - Property sold to William Ritchie After William Ritchie's death, the house was let to several tenants until it eventually was reduced to rubble. "Dunottar House had a beautiful walled garden which was well known for its magnificent flowers and vegetables and for the gardeners who produced them, Messrs. McHardy and Mitchell" A couple of links for Stonehaven research which might be useful - http://www.stonehaven-heritage.org/content/index.asp http://www.geocities.com/thistleinn/index.htmlElaine
Elaine, thank you so much, very interesting information, I can do some research on the house owners and see if that turns up anything. Sounds like it was a beautiful place, reminds me very much of the estate that my grandfather worked on when I was young, I have very happy memories of the walled garden at the 'big house'!
Lass x
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ikennedy
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Dunnottar House is very well known to Kennedy historians, and both the house and the Allardyce family are discussed in Michael Moss's book 'The magnificent castle of Culzean and the Kennedy family'. Sadly Lord William was a terrible gambler and left the estate burdened with debt and when Eleanor too died the family were forced to sell it off.
Iain Kennedy
www.kennedydna.com
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liverpool annie
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Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Looks two families had it !! 
ALLARDICE OF NEW DUNNOTTAR
ALEXANDER ALLARDICE Esq. Of New Dunnottar, Mearns, made his fortune abroad and on his return to his native country he purchased the estate of Dunnottar. He left an only daughter and heiress, Eleanor Allardice who married, 1st May 1814, the Hon Archibald Lord Kennedy (died Earl of Cassilis 12th August 1832) and by her (who died 23rd November 1832) he left issue nine sons and one daughter. The Countess of Cassilis lived to see her patrimonial estate alienated to General Nathaniel Forbes of Auchenrach.
ARMS - Argent, a fesse wavy, gules between the three boars' heads couped, sable.
CREST - A demi-savage, a-frontee, wreathed, holding in his dexter hand a scimiter, proper. MOTTO -In defence of the distressed.
CHIEF SEAT - was Dunnottar House, a fine mansion closely embowered amid finely wooded and extensive grounds and gardens about a quarter of a mile west of Stonehaven.
http://www.allerdice.net/Documents/Allardice%20History%20Cowie1.htm
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Lass
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Hi everyone!
Thanks for the latest information, every snippet is welcome. Googling for Allardice and Dunnottar, I've come up with the following link: http://www.rootschat.com/links/04bv/
This suggests that the house was known as Kirkhill (if I'm reading it correctly) but I'm still frustrated by being unable to find any images.  Do you know of where I might find one Iain, being familiar with the history?
Lass x
edit: link shrunk!
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Lass
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Apologies all, no idea how to shorten that link 
Lass x
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Lass
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Thank you Annie, worked a treat! 
Lass x
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