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vickyhouse2002
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Roscommon marriage
« on: Monday 15 September 08 22:19 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone look this marriage up and save me a trip to Ireland.
I need confirmation or further details on marriage
Francis Patrick O'toole to Harriet Regan
11 Dec 1883 Boyle, Roscommon.

If someone can get me the details of this marriage without me getting a certificate I would be grateful. Would like reference details for a later date to get certificate later.

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Vicky
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Re: Roscommon marriage
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 07:37 UTC (UK) »

on http://www.irish-roots.ie/  I get a match for Harriet in Boyle Civil Records :

   Civil Marriage    Regan    Harriet    1883    Co. Roscommon

however there is no matching marriage in Boyle for anybody name O'Toole. These are the marriages for the county area :

   Civil Marriage     Toole            Thomas    1881    Co. Roscommon
   Civil Marriage          Toole       John    1882    Co. Galway
   Civil Marriage           O'Toole    Patrick    1883    Co. Roscommon
   Church Marriage    O'Toole    Patrick    1883    Co. Roscommon


Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Roscommon marriage
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 11:10 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Shane,
It looks like either one of the two Patrick marriages in 1883 - now a church or a cvial wedding or it is the same marriage recoreded twice?

What is the reference numbers on them? Are they the same or different.

Cheers alot
Vicky
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Re: Roscommon marriage
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 11:31 UTC (UK) »

The basic search does not show any visible reference numbers but I would expect that they would be different.

As registrations details were recorded both by the church and the state there would be two sets of records for each event which can contain slight differences.


Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Roscommon marriage
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 11:37 UTC (UK) »

I have looked at the website you listed and it looks like I have to sign in to see the records. Is there anything else I should know about of how to get this record. Can I read the records e.g parents names ect without having to order both sets of marriage certificates. All I have to go on is the husband's army record. That he was in the army. Does it show this on the marriage certificates listings or does it just the names of the people getting married.

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Vicky
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Re: Roscommon marriage
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 11:47 UTC (UK) »

you have to register at no cost to do the searches and only have to buy credit to view the details. Any 'cert' you purchase is displayed in the screen.

The marriage search for Roscommon does not seem to allow any details other than one name, year & optionally parish. I think the birth searches allow a fathers first name to be used - but this depends on the detail of the record.

From what I've seem on this site, and in actual parish registers, details vary greatly from parish to parish and year to year. Sometimes you can get a full marriage cert with addresses, fathers names, witnesses and comments, other times all you get is two names and a date!


Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Roscommon marriage
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 September 08 12:28 UTC (UK) »

just noticed I got part of a previous post backwards :

The Patrick O'Toole 1883 records are from Boyle Civil, and Boyle RC Parish Records.

edit : PM sent with more details


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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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