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Al in Vane
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Hi everyone
I am back on the Homer trail and was wondering if anyone out there has any baptism records for the Quarry Bank/Cradley area, possibly at Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley which seemed to figure strongly with the family at that time. I am looking for a baptism of William Homer in or around 1798 and any information would be most welcome.
Al
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linell
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Hi Al, I have the Cradley PR's, there is a Wm baptised 27.12. 1801, name spelt William Holmer son of Absalom and Jane, and again registered 18.4.1802 William Holmer son of Absalom and Jane. HTH from linell.
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Al in Vane
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Thanks for that linell, much appreciated.
Although later census records suggest a birth date of nearer 1798 sometimes the baptisms took place much later for various reasons.
There again hemay have moved from another area of Kingstanding although the family did seem to be established around the Quarry Bank area.
Al
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linell
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Hi Al, did the family stay in and around Cradley, I have quite a few Cradley Books, records etc? linell.
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Al in Vane
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Yes, if you scroll down the page of posts you will see my original one called Homing in on the Homers.
The line I am following was in Quarry Bank until the early 1900s.
I am trying to work back earlier from William in 1841.
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linell
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Hi Al, found your old posting, all most interesting, see the family were originally from Saltwells, I was reading up on Saltwells recently in the Black Country Bugle, sounds a lovely old place that was tucked away between Brierely Hill and Quarry Bank. It doesn't look as though your Wm was baptised at Cradley then? Sorry but it doesn't look as though my Cradley Records will be of much help. Do post a message if you find anymore, and I can check back for you. Best Wishes from linell.
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Hello Al
There's this..from IGI extracted record
Bapt.Will Homer 22Oct.1797 Brierley Hill Staffs
Parents Wm +Eliz.
Brierley Hill- hop,skip and a jump from Quarry Bank.
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Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs Harts Hill: Baggot Wright Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson Derbyshire:Wilcockson Derby Belper:Spencer Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs. Hodgetts Radnorshire: Meredith Bristol Somerset: Box Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Marriage William Homer +Nancy Gardener 26 Sept 1819
Kingswinford Staffs.
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Al in Vane
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Linell, thanks for your interest, I also saw the article on Salt Wells and looked from above on Multimap and it still looks a fascinating place although I guess it was much different in the early 1800s.
I am now thinking that William was born somewhere else nearby and the one in Brierley Hill does fit the bill looking at the family names that were carried on as William and Elizabeth feature whereas Absolem and Jane do not, but proving it.......
There may be a way as in the 1841 one of William and Nancy's sons, Shadrach, who would be 10 approx. appears to be missing so it is possible he may be with his Grandparents so if I can find him it may provide the answer, long shot but you just never know!
So many thanks Linell and Jackie, your help and interest is much appreciated
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Wonder if Seth in 1841 could have been a family name
for Shadrach, can't find a bapt.for a Seth.
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jacquelineve
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More baptisms from Brierley Hill
Benj Homer 1788
Nancy 1788
Shadrach 1794
Parents Wlm + Elizb.
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Al in Vane
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Jackie, those names seem to be falling into place nicely, William married Elizabeth Cartwright in March 1787, one entry gives 12th March at Brierley Hill, the other 14th March at Kingswinford.
As regards the name Seth, I havn't seen the original and wondered if it was Beth, short for Elizabeth as I have Shadrach baptism as 20th March 1831 which would make him nine or ten in the '41, the which tallies with his age in later censuses.
Many thanks for your help, I think you may be on the right track.
Al
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jacquelineve
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Al
I tend not to take all info on census returns as gospel,
especially ages, some of my lot have got younger as the
years have gone by.!!!
Jackie.
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Just a thought, I wonder if this could be Williams mother..
living 4 houses away from Wlm +Nancy in 1841
Elizabeth Homer age difficult could be 65 or 69 nailor
not born in county
Sarah Homer 50 nailor born in county
Ann 15 .... .. ......
Wlm 14 .... ... ....
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Al in Vane
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Now that is interesting, I have an Elizabeth Cartwright c 21st May 1769 to Jer. and Mary which if she is 69 in 1841 would put her just about right!
Not born in county though, could Brierley Hill have been classed as Staffordshire at that time?
And Sarah could be the wife of Benjamin, one of Elizabeth's sons that you told me about, he married a Sarah Addleton in Kingswinford in 1807!
There is a distinct possibility that you have cracked it Jackie, superb work. Many thanks!
Al
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