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Topic: Coal Mine Accident = Machen, Monmouthshire (Read 627 times)
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april betty
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I a trying to find out about a mining accident, which happened on 13 April, 1864, at Machen, Monmouthshire, Wales. Benjamin Hammond was killed in a 'fall of stones' on his death certificate, nothing else.
Any newspaper reports?, Family? Information?
Any help would be appreciated. thanks.
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glenclare
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Hi
Have you seen this site?
http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/Photo.htm
I noticed that a colliery was abandoned in 1864. I wonder if there was a connection?
Glen
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april betty
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Many thanks for your reply. I have quickly looked at the website page, but they only list 5 or more people that die in disasters. He is described 'parish of Machen', in his death cert. but he could have worked at any mine in the area, I suppose.
I appreciate your help. Thanks.
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stanmapstone
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http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/home/
Mining Accidents - Benjamin Hammond
Name: HAMMOND Benjamin
Age: 30
Date: 13/03/1864
Year: 1864
Occupation: Collier
Colliery: Black Vein
Owner: TW Rhodes
Town: Risca
County: Monmouth
Notes: Heavy fall of stone from roof.
Stan
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april betty
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Many thanks Stan, and thanks too, for that site, it looks fascinating. His death cert. said he was 50, not 30 tho. Any info on his family, or where I could find out?
As my grand-father's family were miners, this site could be of very great interest.
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Cell
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Hi ,
I think it is worth investigating the info that Stan has given you - it may or may not be him.
The reason why I am saying this is because my grandmother's brother was in explosion in the mine in Bedwas in 1952 - he is transcribed as being only 26 on this site http://www.dmm.org.uk
He is in the list here http://www.dmm2.org.uk/uknames/names_qu.htm - Harry Quarman - I know for 100% fact he had just turned 60.
I can tell you what happened to him he suffered extreme burns to his body - it totally wrecked his face. I know this as I have photographs of him soon after with some of he injured miners from that explosion meeting the Mayor which my dad kept , my dad knew his uncle well
Never rely on transcriptions for ages.
I really think it's worth checking anything out either to dismiss it or verify it
Kind regards 
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Purdy-Loughconnelly McNeill-Loughconnelly & Broughshane Graham -Derry,Ballymoney,Carrickfergus & Ballymena White-Broughshane Boyd-Ballymoney Roberts,Lloyd, Hopkin, Davies Carmarthenshire Parker Oystermouth/Mumbles. Carlsen (also called Carlson & Karlson )B in Former Russia (Finland) & Swansea S.Wales. Butler family Llangyfelach (Clydach & Ynystawe) Quarman Bitton & S.Wales Census information in my posts are crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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april betty
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Thanks Cell for your info. I appreciated your comments. Benjamin is proving so elusive. One day he will wish to be found.
I see from the little writing at the bottom of your note the words Oystermouth/Mumbles/Carmarthen. Area I used to spend my school holidays at, with my cousins. Longlong ago.....
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tonyjukes
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Hello
AprilBetty. He was employed at the Risca Blackvein colliery, which was just in Machen parish as it was on the west side of the Ebbw River. The colliery had just reopened after the 1861 explosion which killed about 140 men and boys. John Russell gave up his interests in the colliery company, which had been bankrupted by the explosion and damages awarded to Sir Charles Morgan for trespass. Rhodes took over the pit. Hammond may have been living in the colliery houses near the old pit - locally called the Rookery and inhabited until about 1950. Large parts of the 1861 census records for that part of Lower Machen are missing. Risca Industrial History Museum may be able to help you - visit their website at riscamuseum.org.uk.
Cell. As chairman of the Bedwas and Trethomas Local History Group I would like a copy of your photo of the miners injured in the 1952 explosion. I have a copy of the official report. We are working on our local history book volume 2. Contact locally or via above.
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Comosus
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Does the site only record accidents where several people died?
After searching through the burials I found that my GGGGGG Grandfather had died by falling down the coal mine, in 1780.
I also came across a few people with his wife's maiden name who had died in a coal mining accident.
18 May 1781: Joseph Womack father slain by the fire  ? at Seacroft also his son Richard Womack who was slain at the same time. The father was aged 43, the son 19 years.
2 June 1781: Joseph Womack son of the above named Joseph Womack collier of Halton his death was occasioned by the bruises he got at Seacroft colliery when his father and brother were slain.
Andrew
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Leeds - HOLMES (also at Boston Spa, Thorp Arch), SCHOLEY/SCOREY/SCHORAH (also at Stanley, Wakefield), TURVEY (also at Birmingham), WARD, WHITE, WOODHEAD (also at Halton, Whitkirk, Templenewsam). Dewsbury - CRAWSHAW, GLEDHILL, SPEIGHT Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER Woolsthorpe by Belvoir - SMITH Barrowby and South Stoke, Lincolnshire - PARKER Derby and Newhall - STREET Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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halfasheep
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Hi Betty, my great uncle James Buckley was killed in Tonhir Colliery, near Maesteg, in 1914 (his last shift before he was due to enlist!).
He was killed when a rock struck him on the head.
At that time (although I don't know how far back they used to do this), the mine would be inspected at fairly regular intervals, and cracks in the roof and walls would be noted by an inspector.
There was an inquest into James' death, and this appeared in the local newspaper (of which I have a copy), so there is a good chance your man may well have had his own inquest as well. It provided me with time of death, time he started his shift, the fact that his father was working at the same mine at the time (albeit on a different shift), etc.
If you can find the local paper, you may strike lucky
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Buckley - South Wales, Tipperary
Lane - Waterford
Hughes - South Wales
Evans - Neath/Cadoxton
Whitty - Wexford, South Wales
Connell - Ireland?
White - Cork
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Cell
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Hi,
Harry Quarman was born in 1892 ( and died in 1982 aged 90, not a bad age for a mine worker )as Alfred Henry Quarman, but he was always called by the name of Harry by his family and by everyone else who knew him he was only known as Harry. He married his wife Alice under his middle nickname name of Harry in 1918 too(his father had the same first birth name as him, so it would have been a bit confusing having two Alfreds in the house ).
This is one pic of him not that long after the Bedwas accident that my father kept. He is second left of the picture, the one with the burnt skin , which is clearly not a man of 26 yrs. My dad has the other pictures of him after the accident . I thought I'd scanned them all, but this is the only one I can seem to find on my computer at the moment. I think he has kept some of the old newspaper reports too.
The second picture is of him age in his late 40's. years before the accident. I've labled it 1939, but it could be just as easily 1938. I know it was was definitely taken around the very late 30's in just those couple of years(as the little boy in the photo with him is my dad).
I don't know how on earth the accident report has a noted age of 26 for Harry who we knew who was most certainly 60 at the time and born in 1892 . My father knew his uncle Harry extremely well and remembers the accident when it happened quite clearly with him being injured in it. It was a very upsetting time for his family. Harry and his wife Alice couldn't have any children of their own, so were close to their nephews.
Kind Regards
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Purdy-Loughconnelly McNeill-Loughconnelly & Broughshane Graham -Derry,Ballymoney,Carrickfergus & Ballymena White-Broughshane Boyd-Ballymoney Roberts,Lloyd, Hopkin, Davies Carmarthenshire Parker Oystermouth/Mumbles. Carlsen (also called Carlson & Karlson )B in Former Russia (Finland) & Swansea S.Wales. Butler family Llangyfelach (Clydach & Ynystawe) Quarman Bitton & S.Wales Census information in my posts are crown copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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stanmapstone
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At that time (although I don't know how far back they used to do this), the mine would be inspected at fairly regular intervals, and cracks in the roof and walls would be noted by an inspector.
If you can find the local paper, you may strike lucky
Under the 1911 Coal Mines Act, each district of the mine was the responsibility of a Deputy who was required to carry out an inspection of his district. He was responsible for the ventilation, and had to make reports as to gas, state of the roof and sides, and general safety.
Coal Mines Act, 1911 Section 14. — (1). For every mine there shall be appointed by the manager in writing one or more competent persons (herein-after referred to as firemen, examiners or deputies) to make such inspections and carry out such other duties as to the presence of gas, ventilation, state of roof and sides, and general safety (including the checking and recording of the number of persons under his charge) as are required by this Act and the regulations of the mine. http://www.dmm.org.uk/books/cma11-02.htm#s014
Stan
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