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William & Ivor Beard MBE
« on: Friday 11 April 08 09:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have 2 brothers named William (Bill) b1906 and Ivor b1915 Beard, born Kings Norton, Birmingham.

Bill was in the National Fire Service in the City of Birmingham. Bill was largely responsible for the reorganisation in the West Midlands region.
He stayed with the fire service in Birmingham during the war.
In 1949 Bill was awarded the MBE in recognition of his work for the fire service.

His brother Ivor joined the RAF Volunteer Reserve in 1937.
By the outset of the war he was a qualified pilot with many flying hours to his credit and was called up at once.
As the war progressed Ivor became part of the intensive Training  organisation based at the RAF Flying Training School at Sywell aerodrome in Northamptonshire.
Ivor taught British pilots as well as allied countries and Free French and Polish Forces.
In 1945 he received the MBE for his war service.

I would like to know who their parents were or any information about them.  Huh

Regards
Dawn  Smiley
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:37 UTC (UK) »

Their Mothers Maiden name was Hadley ...

Births Sep 1915   
 
BEARD  Ivor M  Hadley  Kings Nort.  V6d P64


should be able to work back and find a pre 1906 marriage for a Beard - Hadley combination ..
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:42 UTC (UK) »

et voila ..

Marriages Jun 1905   
 

BEARD  William Edward      King's Nort.  Vol 6c P828   

HADLEY  Alice Elizabeth      King's Nort.  Vol 6c P828
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newfster,

That was quick.  Do you possibly have the fathers' name and a date of birth?

Thanks
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi

You could always send of for the birth certificates and work back from there

Birth Kings Norton 1915 Sep qtr 6d 64
Ivor M Beard mothers maiden name Hadley

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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:48 UTC (UK) »

whose father ?

You need to obtain that Marriage Cert to be bulletproof about earlier generations - and in fact, really you should get Bill or Ivors Birth Cert to be 100% certain of this.
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newfster,

Our posts had crossed, you are so quick.  Grin

It was Bill and Ivor's father, name and date of birth I was looking for.

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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:56 UTC (UK) »

Heres a likely candidate for the William E. Beard who married in the Kings N district in 1905 ..... again, you'd need the Marriage Cert to verify this entry ... but sadly his Father wasnt at home when the census was taken, so you'd need to look in 1891/81 too ...

1901 - RG13/2818; Folio: 134; Page: 25 - Smethwick (Kings N, Harborne district)
107, Gladys Road

 

Mary Beard 40  Married Head born Birmingham
William E Beard 20  son Manufacturers Clerk do
Arthur Beard 18  son do
Helen Beard 16  dau do
Henry Beard 14  son Errand Boy Smethwick
Jessie Beard 12  dau USA, PHILIDELPHIA
Elsie Beard 7 dau Smethwick

William Langford 20  Boarder
Frederick Atkins 20  do
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 April 08 11:00 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Newfster,

I have possibly found Bill & Ivor's grandfather on the 1881 census - William Beard b1859 in Ireland.  So I shall have to look into that further.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 September 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dawn, 
I am related to Bill and Ivor, have been researching for some time and would love to compare notes.
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 09:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have the Beard's going back to c1664.  But I have conflicting notes on who the father and mother were for Bill and Ivor.  Huh

If their father was William Edward Beard b1873, then he was the brother of my great grandmother.

His parents were William Beard b1845 and Emma Churm b1848.  But other information gives me William's wife as Mary b?.

Perhaps you could shed some light on this for me?

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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 12:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dawn,
According to my records Bill and Ivor's father was William Edward Beard (1881 - 1951) and their mother was Alice Elizabeth Hadley (1882 - 1952) They married in 1905.  William Edward's parents were William John Beard (1859 - ?) and Mary Langford and they married on 7 June 1880. 
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Re: William & Ivor Beard MBE
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 12:11 UTC (UK) »

certainly confirms the findings in the early posts of this thread  Smiley
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