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Mags M
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Hi,
I am researching the Devine family.They were based around Ardkeenan/Drum/ Taghmaconnall part of the county, near Athlone.
My great-grandfather, Michael married a Bridget Dunning, but he died in his 50's in the late 1890's when my grandfather was still very young, so we don't have a strong link back.
I am going to have a researcher look back for me but if anyone has any other information about these two families through their own research that would be great.
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aghadowey
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Found at least 5 children for Michael Devine-Bridget Dunning: Patrick (1869), James (1870), Catherine (1872), John (1877), Thomas (1879)- see IGI at www.familysearch.org for details. There might be others not listed in IGI which will might be mentioned in church records.
If Michael and Bridget got married 1864 or later there should be a civil marriage certificate which should list where they lived (townland) at the time of the marriage as well as names and occupations of their fathers.
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Mags M
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I don't know how many siblings my grandfather had - his name was Bernard (known as Brian).
I found them on the 1901 census and that's how I discovered my great-grandfather was deceased. That document notes my granddad's age as 12 though I think he was born in 1885. Is this sort of inaccuracy common?
My mother remembers that her father buried his wife and brother on the same day in January 1955. He was Thomas I think.
I am seeing a lot more names than I thought I would - if he had a sibling born in 1869 the he possibly had a lot more family than even my mother imagined. She thought there were maybe two brothers and one or two sisters. If these are all his family then his eldest brother had probably left home before he was born.
I think I am going to need to find a lot more than I thought...thanks for all of this help.
mags.
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Mags M
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Thanks for all the feedback.
I decided to get a professional on the job - my mother is so surprised at the prospect of these extra uncles that I feel I need to have it properly verified for her.
That is the marriage of my mothers grandparents btw.
I am building my tree on ancestry.com and I'll post all I discover there.
If anyone working on the Devine or Dunning family from the Athlone South area or adjacent areas comes across this at any time I'd be glad to hear from them.
We also have a link to the Carrolls of the same area (my mother's mother was a Carroll) but since a US based family member has already done extensive work on this area I have lots of people to work on here.
MM
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rubenonekord
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There are a lot of Dunnings South of Athlone in a parish called Clonown, that takes in a few districts around but mainly from Cornafulla on the Main Athlone to Ballinasloe road to The Shannon river. Clonown is a townland on the west bank of the River Shannon about 5 kilometres south of the town of Athlone. It is entirely a rural area without a pub, a shop or industry. It has a Catholic church, a community centre, and a primary school with 27 pupils. Farms are small and many people have non-agricultural jobs in Athlone. Adjoining townlands include Carricknaughton (between Athlone and Clonown), Curraghnaboll and Drumlosh to the south and Taylorstown to the west. The flat land along by the river, known as the callows. My father Terence (Tony)Dunnings was one of many Dunnings born and brought up in this area around Drumlosh.
http://www.clonown.com/
Hope this helps
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johnros
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For map visit http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/athloneRC.html
I note that Cloonown is a detached townland of St. Peter’s Civil parish
Catholic records on LDS microfilm 1789 -1880 various. Films 989750 & 989754.
See also St.Mary's Parish, Athlone Co. Westmeath, 1813-1984 LDS films 1279225 & 1279226
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For other sources see my recent Leitrim post on Rootschat
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lbud
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Can I clarify then that there are no 19th century RC church records for the parish of Clonown specifically, that the church records are for St. Peter's in Athlone? Thanks.
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Price, Brady - Offaly, Galway
Johnston, Charters/Chartres, Anderson - Offaly
Burke, Creavin, Cunniffe, Galvin, Shanny, Dunning, Tansey - Roscommon
Belton, Murphy, Reilly, McDonnell - Louth
Wilson - Westmeath (Moate)
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johnros
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I note you live in Ireland.
Cloonown is not a Catholic parish.
I suggest you check your local library for the 2000 publication “The Diocese of Elphin, People, Places and Pilgrimage”. By Fr. Francis Beirne, Four Roads, Co. Roscommon. The book is still in print.
The map of the parish of Athlone (aka Athlone and Drum) includes the small section West of the Shannon transferred to County Westmeath in 1898.
The Catholic records for Athlone Catholic are on LDS film 1789 -1880 various. Films 989750 & 989754. Check the content of the films http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
You can view the records at the National Library in Dublin Film number P.4615 http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx
For the definition of Civil and Catholic parishes see
http://www.roscommonhistory.ie/People/JohnHunter/Notes.pdf and
http://www.roscommonhistory.ie/People/JohnHunter/Index2.pdf
The LDS British Isles Vital Records Index set of 16 CDs contains
Athlone & Drum (C) 1789-1853: St Peter's 1855-1864
The CDs are available at major libraries worldwide.
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lbud
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Thanks.  I assume the records for a parish as large as St. Peter's must be extensive and I wanted to make sure they were the correct ones before I went trawling through them. 
I was confused because there is currently a church in the townland of Clonown (mentioned at http://www.clonown.com/) and I was wondering when it was built, and if there were BMD records for it. I suppose it must be recently built.
Apologies for dragging this post off-topic.
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Price, Brady - Offaly, Galway
Johnston, Charters/Chartres, Anderson - Offaly
Burke, Creavin, Cunniffe, Galvin, Shanny, Dunning, Tansey - Roscommon
Belton, Murphy, Reilly, McDonnell - Louth
Wilson - Westmeath (Moate)
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VH
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Hi Mags,
There is a Devine living in Ardkeenan still whose father was a Brian Devine. I think there is a connection. My husband grew up in that townland and knows this family. It is about 5 miles from Athlone. The postal address is Ardkeenan, Drum, Athlone, Co. Roscommon. There has been a RC church and graveyard in Drum for centuries. Marriages and baptisms more than likely took place in Drum church. It is part of St. Peter's parish.
Did you get the family in 1911 census (now free online for country)? Can view the actual census form which gives more detail than 1901.
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VH
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Sorry Mags,
Only noticed your post dates 2008. Expect you already have all the family history at this stage (should have put on my specs sooner). Cheers
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) - so these look like a very good match to your couple.