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Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

I've tracked down a Matthew Ellwood born dec 1839 to John Ellwood (born abt 1796) and Margaret Ellwood (born abt 1800).

These dates are approximate and I can't seem to go further back. The bit that's concerning me about the parents births is that none of the children were born until around 1830 onwards which seems a little late considering most people had children reasonably young although it does tie in with the 1841 census.

Does anyone have any further ideas ?
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:40 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I have asked the moderator to move your post to the Westmorland board

This is from the IGI at www.familysearch.org

JOHN ELLWOOD   Spouse:  MARGARET NUTT   
Marriage:  19 OCT 1829   Crosby Ravensworth, Westmorland, 
 
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:48 UTC (UK) »
In the 1851 census they have a daughter of 21 so that marriage sounds about right.  Living in Maulds Meaburn
John 59 Ag lab pauper b Crosby Ravensworth
Margaret 53                              "
Thomas 13
Matthew 10
Mary 7
Jane 21 kids all born Maulds Meaburn

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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:48 UTC (UK) »
1851 census for Maulds Meaburn Westmorland.  All children shown as b Maulds Meaburn

John Ellwood 59 ag labourer pauper b Crosby Ravensworth
Margaret 58 b Crosby Ravensworth
Thomas 13
Matthew 10
Mary 7
Jane 21
I think age should be 53 as she would have been 51 when she had Mary if she was 58

HO107; Piece: 2440; Folio: 22; Page: 5
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:51 UTC (UK) »
Thanks - that marriage looks to be about the right time. Now i Need to track down the dates of birth and parents if possible.
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:51 UTC (UK) »
Interesting as I read it as 53!   I also meant to point out that ages above 15 in the 1841 census were generally rounded down to the nearest 5 so the 1851 ones should be more accurate.  There is another son John with them in 1841.
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 September 08 17:59 UTC (UK) »
I'm wondering if she was born in 1800-

Event(s):
   Birth:     
15 FEB 1800      
   Christening:     
23 FEB 1800      Kendal, Westmorland, England
   Death:
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Parents:
     Father:     SAMUEL NUTT    Family
     Mother:     AGNES
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 September 08 18:04 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: sillgen on Saturday 20 September 08 17:51 UTC (UK)
Interesting as I read it as 53!  

Ancestry has her age as 52 and I'm inclined to agree with it.  The enumerator uses a characteristic loop at the top of the 2 which is not present on the 3.

The IGI batch for Crosby Ravensworth P003201 has several ELLWOODs but no NUTT.

A Margaret NUTT was bap 1800 at Kendal 1800 (Batch C003114) but this seems some distance away Sad
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 September 08 18:06 UTC (UK) »
1841 census states John was 45 and Margaret was 40 - it appears that it might be accurate compared to the D.O.B I  have of abt 1796 and abt 1800.
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 September 08 18:21 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: ss002d6252 on Saturday 20 September 08 18:06 UTC (UK)
1841 census states John was 45 and Margaret was 40 - it appears that it might be accurate compared to the D.O.B I  have of abt 1796 and abt 1800.

Ages of adults in the 1841 census were supposed to have been rounded down.  A recorded age of 45 indicated the person was at least 45 but not yet 50, similarly 40 meant at least 40 but not yet 45.

The instructions to enumerators of the 1841 census are to be found here-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~somtcen/1841instructions.html
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 07:08 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

The witness at John Ellwood's & Margaret Nutt's wedding was Christopher Bowman if that is any help. John is described as a labourer for his children's baptisms.

There is a burial for a Margaret Ellwood of Meaburn at CR in 1854 aged 54 years.

Regards,

Gillian
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Elwood/Ellwood: WES & CUM
Johnson: Crosby Ravensworth, Hilton & Dufton WES
Robinson: CUM
Langhorn: Kirkby Thore WES
Dover: WES & CUM
Parker: Soulby, Bedale
Hunt: Gentleshaw, Bladon, Hanborough
Slynn: Birmingham
Rammell: KENT
Felton: Shropshire
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 August 09 21:13 UTC (UK) »
I am researching the Ellwood family, came across this today and registered with RootsChat to reply!  John Ellwood & Margaret Ellwood (nee Nutt) are my g.g. grandparents. Their son Thomas, (my g.grandfather) was brother to the Matthew you mention. I too had Margaret Nutt's parents as probably Samuel Nutt & Agnes Nutt (nee Coupland) but haven't been able to go further back than John with any certainty. He was possibly the John Ellwood christened in Kendal on 10 April 1790 (Maragaret was born in 1800 in Kendal) and if so the line could be as follows:
Daniel Ellwood (b.1730 Kendal) m. Hannah Crewdson (b.1733 Kendal) in 1758: their son, also Daniel Ellwood (christened 10/6/1759) m. another Hannah (or Ann) and they were John Ellwood's parents.
Did you have any of this, and have you been abe to verify that this John is the right one? I'd also be interested to know what your connection is to these Ellwoods!   
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Ellwood:  Westmoreland & Weardale
Angus: Weardale
Watson: Bedale, North Yorkshire
Billing(s): Northamptonshire & Warwickshire
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 05:48 UTC (UK) »
Hi

My great grandmother was Margaret Ellwood (m. to George Suddick). Margaret was John Ellwoods grand daughter and Matthews daughter.

Matthew is shown on the 1841 census living with his parents John and Margaret.

The info I have suggests John Ellwood's parents were Michael Ellwood and Mary Atkinson however this is mainly from work done by others on ancestry.co.uk so I don't have documentary proof.

Thanks
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 21:07 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for this - another line to investigate. You're the first person I've found doing my research that  I'm related to - though it's pretty distant!  Smiley

Thanks again.
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Ellwood:  Westmoreland & Weardale
Angus: Weardale
Watson: Bedale, North Yorkshire
Billing(s): Northamptonshire & Warwickshire
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Re: Ellwood fo Crosby Ravensworth
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 21:27 UTC (UK) »
Ive found a few distant relatives on the other lines but you are the first on this side.
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