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Topic: Williams- Old family Merioneth? (Read 1002 times)
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Willjay
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Peter,
I can happily send you more information in a PM if you want. I think there is a probable family connection between the Williams family in Beudu Bach and one, or both, of the two households in Penrhiw. Beudy Bach was a very small house, now in ruins, and only a few yards from Penrhiw. It could have been part of the Penrhiw farm and used by a family member. I don't have much information on the older children in the 1841 census for Beudy Bach but I do have family trees for the younger ones, including Catherine, from whom I am descended. I have details of memorial inscriptions in the old churchyard in Dolwyddelan.
Willjay
Hi Willjay
There appear to be several Williams families from the area. I have traced back to Griffith W born circa 1786 in Dolwyddelan who married Elinor (Roberts I believe) from the Llanrwst area. I have found 6 children Robert, John, Catherine,Griffith John again (assume first John died) and Jane and many more grandchildren and the next few generations. There also seem to be Jones's living at the farm which seems to be split although I do not have details at the moment.
Would like to forward what you have via Ancestry in a PM which you will be able to do after I think your 3rd posting and we can take it from there.
Peter
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Williams, Dolwyddelan
Roberts, Dolwyddelan
Moseley, Breconshire & Monmouthshire
Richmond, Breconshire & Monmouthshire
Parker, Gloucestershire
Jenner, Gloucestershire
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Peterej
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Hi Willjay
Apologies for not replying sooner. I am still waiting for some certificates ordered a couple of weeks ago which may help.
Will be in touch idc
Peter
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Jones, Edwards, Davies, Owen, Benjamin , Hughes , Roberts,Thomas,Williams, Wynne , Griffiths, Howells, Rowlands etc etc plus Thomas,Trewren,Holmes,Thirlwall,Jones again & again & more "This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk" |
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Peterej
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Hi Willjay
I have received a couple of certificates and they may or may not help us.
They are both marriage certificates.
First I have Margaret Davies marrying Richard Jones in 1843. Richard subsequently must have died and Margaret remarried Robert Williams in 1851(this is the other cert). Robert and Margaret then lived in Penrhiw and they are my ancestors. The family stayed in Penrhiw until around 1901+ and then moved to the Wrexham area.
I am guessing that Richard Jones was living at Penrhiw when he married although I have no evidence except he was described as a farmer in the certificate. There are also other Jones's in Penrhiw continuously and the house was obviously split.
There is a Cathrine born circa 1845 in the family in 1851 and at the moment I am not sure who were her parents. I could be Jones/Davies and she assumed the name Williams or it could be that she is the daughter of Robert Williams and ? as Robert is described as a widower in his marriage certificate. She was born in Festiniog where I 'think' Robert was living in 1841 with a Lowry. I have not yet had time to ask the Registrar to look for the marriage and this will now have to wait until December as I am away shortly.
Does my Cathrine sound a possibility as being yours?
I have some details of MI's from Dolwyddelan from a visit a few years ago but I now have new names to look for. Any sign of a Lowry?
I hope this is not too garbled. I am rushing a little.
Peter
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Jones, Edwards, Davies, Owen, Benjamin , Hughes , Roberts,Thomas,Williams, Wynne , Griffiths, Howells, Rowlands etc etc plus Thomas,Trewren,Holmes,Thirlwall,Jones again & again & more "This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk" |
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