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Topic: Dolwyddelan. Local knowledge anyone? (Read 1649 times)
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bronnie
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My grandfather was born at number 1 Pentre Bont, Dolwyddelan. In the 1891 Census, there are 23 dwellings listed in Pentre Bont. I can only identify it as a general area on maps old and new. Other members of his family lived for many years round the corner in Benar Terrace / Tan y Benar Dolwyddelan from c1881 .
I wondered whether the cottages up the hill, now with a street sign 'High Street', might have been formerly known as 1-23 Pentre Bont as I can't find High Street on the 1891 Census for that district. Individual properties in the immediate vicinity of the present High Street are listed on the 1891 in close proximity to dwellings number 1 to 23 Pentre Bont. Of course it is possible these dwellings no longer exist.
Any insider info would be so helpful.
Thank you
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Slowly losing my mind researching the surnames of my paternal grandparents' families!
Hughes. Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Holyhead
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool
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didih
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Hi I cant be 100% certain but I dont think the houses are there any longer,my dad was born in Dolwyddelan and his family lived there for generations, including pentre bont. I havent been there for years but seem to remember my taid (granddad) telling me the houses his grandparents had lived in at pentre Bont wasnt there any more, wish now I had listned to his stories more closely.
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bronnie
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Hi
Many thanks for your reply. I think you're probably right, the cottages have gone.
Don't we all wish we'd listened to the stories more carefully and asked more questions when we had the chance.......?!
Your family from Dolwyddelan are not Roberts ( or even Williams said she, clutching at straws!!)are they? .....Must be worth asking, gotta be a 50/50 chance in these parts!
Thanks again anyway
Bronwen
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Slowly losing my mind researching the surnames of my paternal grandparents' families!
Hughes. Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Holyhead
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool
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didih
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The branch of the family from pentre Bont is Williams as it happens Daniel and Ann Williams m 1865 one of their children Ellinor (Ellen) b1876 was my gt. grandmotherThey were at pentre bont between 1865 and 1873 so my taid was a little out with his places. I have the front page of the family bible which has given me all the details sadly the rest of the bible had fallen to pieces and the page I have is very fragile
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bronnie
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The reason I ask about Williams is that my grandfather had 2 half brothers of this name, born 1880 and 1886. Not the same immediate branch of your Williams family however!
Thanks for response. Always worth a try!
Bronwen
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Slowly losing my mind researching the surnames of my paternal grandparents' families!
Hughes. Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Holyhead
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool
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bronnie
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Did any of your Williamses emigrate?
Not to my knowledge, although I don't know a lot about them.
My great grandmother Gwen was widow of Hugh Williams(1856), whose family farmed at Pen Rhiw, Dolwyddelan. ( I already have a Rootschatter connection for this family).
Gwen had 2 sons by Hugh, Robert (1880) and Griffith (1886), living with her in Pentre Bont in 1891. Robert was a quarryman by 1901, still living with her and second husband in Blaenau Ffestiniog, whilst Griffith was a farm worker at Hafod Gwennlian, nr Roman Bridge. I believe Griffith went on to have a daughter Gwen but that's all I know. They would be my grandfather's half-brothers.
Bronwen
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« Last Edit: Saturday 14 February 09 01:26 UTC (UK) by bronnie »
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Slowly losing my mind researching the surnames of my paternal grandparents' families!
Hughes. Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Holyhead
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool
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Willjay
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Hi Bronnie,
I know the Dolwyddelan area well and I'm descended from one of the Beudu Bach Williams family in Roman Bridge. I can confirm that the current High Street is the old part of Pentre Bont. There are still several very old quarryman's cottages there which have individual names. These may once have had numbers.
Willjay
My grandfather was born at number 1 Pentre Bont, Dolwyddelan. In the 1891 Census, there are 23 dwellings listed in Pentre Bont. I can only identify it as a general area on maps old and new. Other members of his family lived for many years round the corner in Benar Terrace / Tan y Benar Dolwyddelan from c1881 .
I wondered whether the cottages up the hill, now with a street sign 'High Street', might have been formerly known as 1-23 Pentre Bont as I can't find High Street on the 1891 Census for that district. Individual properties in the immediate vicinity of the present High Street are listed on the 1891 in close proximity to dwellings number 1 to 23 Pentre Bont. Of course it is possible these dwellings no longer exist.
Any insider info would be so helpful.
Thank you
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Williams, Dolwyddelan
Roberts, Dolwyddelan
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bronnie
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Thanks for your reply, Willjay. I visited last year and took some photos. Curious to know if the cottage in which my gf was born is still there!
Note you, like me also have Dolwyddelan Roberts in your tree. Mine originated from Cwm Dyli, Bedgellert.
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Slowly losing my mind researching the surnames of my paternal grandparents' families!
Hughes. Bangor, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Birkenhead, Liverpool
Roberts. Bedgellert, Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog
Williams. Dolwyddelan, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Holyhead
Jones. Holyhead, Birkenhead, Liverpool
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