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Topic: Miller/1851/61/71/Census (Read 934 times)
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scully
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Hi,
I,m looking for the following family in the 1851/61/71 cenus. They are a John & Margaret Miller, they married in 1846, Glenluce, Old luce, Wigtown. there was also a Jessie Miller ,b 1847, a Margaret Miller, b, 1858 Jane Miller, b,1860, and a James Miller b,?. They were all born in Glenluce. Don,t Know if there were any more children.
Scully
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jamajo
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Hi,
This looks like them in 1861 in Old Luce
Parish Old Luce/ ED 8 / Page 12 / Line 5
Margaret Miller, wife of head ,age 28, b Glenluce, occ fishermans wife
Mary dau age 12 b Ballantrae
Donald son age 8 b Ballantrae
James son age 4 b Ballantrae
Margaret dau age 2 b Glenluce
Jane dau age 5 months b Glenluce
Address Main Street.
Sue
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hume
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Here's a list of John and Margaret (nee McWilliam)'s children from the IGI. Strangely a lot of the post-1855 children are submitted, rather than extracted entries. 
Jessie b. 1847 Glenluce (submitted)
Mary Jane b. 1849 Ballantrae (submitted)
Robina b. 1851 Ballantrae, d. 1866 (submitted)
Donaldson b. 1853 Ballantrae (submitted)
John b. 1855 Ballantrae (submitted)
James Alexander b. 1857 Ballantrae (submitted)
Margaret b. 1858 Glenluce (submitted)
Jane b. 1860 Glenluce (submitted)
John b. 1862 Doonfoot (submitted)/Ayr (extracted)
George b. 1864 Doonfoot (submitted)
Robina b. 1871 Ayr (extracted)
hume24 
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scully
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Hi Sue, Terry & Hume24,
I hope you don,t mind me answering you all together. first Sue & Terry thank you for the information. I was just starting to reply to you when i recieved Hume24,s information about the last 3 children being born in Ayr. Because their daughter Jane married in St Quivox in 1880. so they are probably in the 1871 census for Ayr. Thank you Hume24 for your information it helped find out where they were after 1861.
Scully
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hume
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Hi Scully,
I've just realised there is quite a gap between George and Robina's births (about 7 years). Possibly John and Margaret lost a few children between that time.  It might be worth trying to find MIs for the family in Ballantrae and/or Glenluce.
hume24
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MonicaLesl
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Hi All
The family in 1871, as transcribed:
John Miller 41, water bailiff, b. Bellantian, Ayrshire
Margaret Mcn Miller 40, b. Glaisdale, Wigtownshire
Jane Miller 15, b. Glenbarr, Wigtown
Margaret Miller 12, b. Glenbarr, Wigtown
John Miller 8, b. Ayr
George Miller 6, b. Ayr
James Miller 74...son? - maybe the one born in 1857 b. Balton Hill, Ayrshire
Address: Durport Cottage, Ayr Landward
Monica
PS: Hume, certainly strange why so many of the children's births are showing as submitted rather than actual on IGI 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Scully
The submitted IGI entries all show on SP. Don't know how much info you are looking for on the family or already have but you have an 1855 birth cert for son John in 1855 Ballantrae which will provide you with much more background on the parents.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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scully
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Hi Hume24 & Monica,
Thanks again for the information. Monica on the 1871 census you think the James at the bottom might be the one born in 1857 so on the census should that be 24 not 74 or is that what the census said. Also when you say the births on the IGI have been Submitted Do,s that mean that somebody has sent them in. I will get the SP for John 1855 thanks.
Scully
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MonicaLesl
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Scully
The James in 1871 is showing as son on the index that I am looking at - can't be right! You'd have to look at the original image to verify the detail. Transcriptions are great except when they mis-transcribe 
As Hume said, the birth entries for the children on IGI are showing as submitted information by a LDS member, not actual extract from the registers. I've checked some on the entries on SP and they do seem to correspond. Hume and I were just surprised by how many entries didn't show as actual extract from the registerson IGI given that many were born in the period post statutory registration and IGI is normally very good on actual extracts in the period 1855-75 for Scottish records.
Hope the 1855 birth cert provides you with some new info
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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scully
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Hi Monica,
Thanks for your help.
Scully
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hume
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Hi Scully,
Some information about this family from a website: Margaret McWilliam
Apologies if you've seen already. It does give some new information that could be checked on.
hume24
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