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Topic: George Grimmer of Rollesby - Completed (Read 615 times)
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meles
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I have made the cardinal sin of making an assumption which has turned out to be wrong! 
I know from his birth certificate that George Grimmer was born in Rollesby, near Martham, 15.1.1858, illegitimate son of Mary Ann.
She married George Brock in 1.8.1860, Gt Yarmouth.
GG appears in the 1861 census at South Market Rd, Yarmouth as George Grimmer, stepson, 3, b. Rollesby.
and again in the 1871 Census at 48 Rutland St Westminster as George Brock, 16, milk boy, b. Rollesby (don't know why he's 3 years older).
I had assumed he married Patience Emily Edwards in Mutford in 1884, but I now realise George Grimmer b. 1860 Martham is another man - I can now find him in previous censuses.
But I can't now find George Grimmer/Brock b. 1858 Rollesby after 1871 - no marriages or deaths. 
Any ideas?
meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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meles
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I think I have now found him in 1891.
And perhaps in 1881 - Colchester Barracks, as a soldier.
Is there a way of finding out which part of the Army he was in?
RG11/1789/65.
Thanks
meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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wendy47
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Hi Meles
One I've found
1891 Census Lambeth 99 Dalyell Road
RG 12 / 410 / 12 page 15
Railway Guard George Grimmer aged 34 b Norfolk m to Jane aged 30 from Neen Savage Shropshire
A visitor is Harry Langford aged 19 from Neen Savage Shropshire
Marriages Jun 1884
Grimmer George Wandsworth 1d 1036
LANGFORD Jane Wandsworth 1d 1036
Don't know if he's yours.
Regards Wendy47
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos
COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford
NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent
CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx
Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn
COX Wilts
STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey
"Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland
ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex
FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down
CLAYTON SWEENY Cork
PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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meles
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That is him. Though his wife is living with his brother Thomas in 1901, but says she's single! Not sure if they've separated or he died.
Just wondered if I could find what army outfit he was in, I could look up his details.
meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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wendy47
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Hi meles
Colchester was an Infantry Barracks for training all regiments so I think the National Archives is one website which may help. George may have not joined his county regiment. My relatives didn't. Maybe if you search Go**le
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O99981
1851 Census for Martham Norfolk
has a Mary Ann Grimmer aged 16 with parents
Edward aged 44 b Upton Ag Lab &
wife Sarah aged 45 b Ingham
Richard aged 11 b Martham
Martha aged 7 b Martham
HO 107 / 1807 Page 21
Could they be yours do you think?
Regards
Wendy47
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos
COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford
NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent
CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx
Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn
COX Wilts
STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey
"Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland
ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex
FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down
CLAYTON SWEENY Cork
PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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meles
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Wendy - thank you. That's interesting. If it's a training area, then getting the name of any regiment might be very hard.
Yes, Mary Ann is my great-grandmother. George is her (second) illegtimate son
meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
I see in 1901 Jane is living in North Claines, Worcestershire, registration district: Droitwich. So this looks like George's death,
George GRIMMER Age: 41 Dec Q 1899 Droitwich 6c 216
Regards
Daisy
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meles
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Oh! Thank you so much for that, Daisy. I think that's so likely that I'm going to splash out £7 on the certificate!
meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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sijambo
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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HI meles
Wow,this is really spooky.Please bear with me.My Gt Grandfather is Tom Grimmer,believed born in Norfolk.I found him on the census in barracks at [u][/u]Rollesby.He had 3 sons,one is Victor George,known as George killed 1918,one named Thomas Winton,and one named Harold.They too lived in Claines,Worcs.Are these coincidences do you think,or are my Gt Grandfather, Tom and George Grimmer related
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meles
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My Thomas had 3 sons, of of whom was Victor George.
I have lot of info for you, so I shall PM you.
meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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