|
Pages: 1 [2]
|
 |
|
Author
|
Topic: Grindley's of Forton (Read 1509 times)
|
Baudoux
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 98
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Have just read about your search. I have the name "Grindley" on my Tree.
My Great Uncel William Henry Leese (1883) on Jan. 15, 1908 he married Alice Grindley in Wrockeardine. His sister, Harriet (1887) (My Great Aunt) married Frederick Grindley (1886).
Another relatice by the name of Robert Leese on June 24, 1907 married Lily Grindley )1885).
I have James Grindley (1883) On Dec. 27,1915 married Julia Butler.
I have it as this: Parents: Alfred Grindley & Rosanna Nock.
CHILDREN: Thomas (1870); Mary (1872); John (1874); Martha (1878); Alice (1880); James (1883); Lily (1885); Frederick (1886); Harry (1890)
Hope this will help. Feel free to contact me.
Doris
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ColeshillCol
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 9
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi,
Here are the details of my own Shropshire Grindleys:
George Grindley, born in Meertown, Forton, Staffordshire c1846
he married:
Mary Evans, born in Bala, Wales c1843
they had six children, all born in Edgmond, Shropshire (the family lived on a road called Edgmond Marsh):
John Grindley, born 1873
Janet Grindley, b1876
Alfred Grindley, b1877
Lillian Grindley, b1878
William Grindley, b1881
Edwin Grindley, b1883
Lillian was my grandmother, but she died a long time before I was born. I believe George died and then all the rest of the family moved to Birmingham, where quite a few of them ended up working for Cadburys.
I've never met any of their descendants, who I suppose would be my second cousins.
Are any of these people on your own Tree?
thanks,
Colin Carberry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Carberry - New York, USA, UK, Ireland. Clift - Cheltenham, Birmingham, Gloucsetershire. Grindley - Shropshire, Staffordshire, Birmingham, New York, USA. Johnson - Birmingham. Johnstone - Birmingham.
|
|
|
Blubell17
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 96
Alfred Spingett 1879-1955 & Great Uncle Richard
|
Have just read about your search. I have the name "Grindley" on my Tree.
My Great Uncel William Henry Leese (1883) on Jan. 15, 1908 he married Alice Grindley in Wrockeardine. His sister, Harriet (1887) (My Great Aunt) married Frederick Grindley (1886).
Another relatice by the name of Robert Leese on June 24, 1907 married Lily Grindley )1885).
I have James Grindley (1883) On Dec. 27,1915 married Julia Butler.
I have it as this: Parents: Alfred Grindley & Rosanna Nock.
CHILDREN: Thomas (1870); Mary (1872); John (1874); Martha (1878); Alice (1880); James (1883); Lily (1885); Frederick (1886); Harry (1890)
Hope this will help. Feel free to contact me.
Doris
Hi Doris,
Yes we do have a connection.
Alfred was the son of Ann Grindley born 1821 Forton, Shrop. He was baptised 28 Feb 1841 at All Saints, Forton, Shrop. Ann was the daughter of John and Leonora. It Ann's sister Hannah born 1810 who my grandmother Florence Grindley is descended from. Hannah had a son William Grindley born in 1835 Forton who married Amelia Brian, they settled in Birmingham.
I have Alfred Grindley born c 1841 Forton Shropshire married Roseanna Nock born 1846 Shiffnal. Alfred died in 1911 and Roseanna in 1903.
Children:
George 1866
Thomas Alfred 1869
Mary Anne 1871
John William 1873
Martha Jane 1877
Alice 1880
James 1882
Lilian Mary (known as lily) 1884
Frederick Charles 1886
Harry 1889
I would love to swap details, I'll PM you my email address
Regards
Dee
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Springett - Kent & Birmingham. Bailey - Eastington & Frocester Gloucester, Gregory - Frocester & Eastington Gloucester, Hall - Lichfield, Staffordshire & Birmingham, Grindley - Shropshire & Birmingham, Pinnegar - Kingstanley & Leonard Stanley, Gloucester, Watkins - Eastington, Gloucester, Wilkins - Leonard Stanley, Gloucester, Lane-Birmingham, Underwood-Birmingham, Selwood-Gloucester, Martin-Staffordshire, Henshaw/Staffordshire/Birmingham, Boyman-Kent, Bicknell-Yorks/Birmingham, Betts-Birmingham
|
|
|
ColeshillCol
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 9
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
I'm thinking all these Grindleys from Forton may be related to my Great Grandfather, George Grindley, who was born in Forton in about 1846. Was it a common name in those parts?
Coincidentally, my Grandmother was a Lillian Mary Grindley, but she was born in Edgmond, Shropshire in September 1878, unlike your own Lillian Mary Grindley who was born in 1884. It's obviously a different person, but I wonder if they may have been related in some way?
all the best,
Colin
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Carberry - New York, USA, UK, Ireland. Clift - Cheltenham, Birmingham, Gloucsetershire. Grindley - Shropshire, Staffordshire, Birmingham, New York, USA. Johnson - Birmingham. Johnstone - Birmingham.
|
|
|
Blubell17
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 96
Alfred Spingett 1879-1955 & Great Uncle Richard
|
I'm thinking all these Grindleys from Forton may be related to my Great Grandfather, George Grindley, who was born in Forton in about 1846. Was it a common name in those parts?
Coincidentally, my Grandmother was a Lillian Mary Grindley, but she was born in Edgmond, Shropshire in September 1878, unlike your own Lillian Mary Grindley who was born in 1884. It's obviously a different person, but I wonder if they may have been related in some way?
all the best,
Colin
Hi again Colin,
I have had a little time away from my family tree, but have just started searching again. I'm still sure that we have a connection somewhere, I just haven't found it yet. I've kept your family tree details handy, so I can cross check as I expand my Grindley side of the tree.
As far as I know by 1891 the Grindley name was common to the Lancashire/Shropshire/Staffordshire/Cheshire areas. With a highest proportion coming from Lancashire. So it is quite possible that our branches of the Grindley's of Forton and Edgmond were connected in some way.
I'll Keep in touch
Regards
Dee
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Springett - Kent & Birmingham. Bailey - Eastington & Frocester Gloucester, Gregory - Frocester & Eastington Gloucester, Hall - Lichfield, Staffordshire & Birmingham, Grindley - Shropshire & Birmingham, Pinnegar - Kingstanley & Leonard Stanley, Gloucester, Watkins - Eastington, Gloucester, Wilkins - Leonard Stanley, Gloucester, Lane-Birmingham, Underwood-Birmingham, Selwood-Gloucester, Martin-Staffordshire, Henshaw/Staffordshire/Birmingham, Boyman-Kent, Bicknell-Yorks/Birmingham, Betts-Birmingham
|
|
|
wordanceruk
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi Colin,
I was very interested to read your posts because my wife is the grandaughter of William Evan Grindley, your grandmother's brother, and I've been researching the family for a while. I know something of the brothers but nothing of their sisters. When did Lilian go to America? My research suggests that George Grindley (born 12th September 1844 at Forton) was either Alfred (born 1841)'s brother or cousin. We may never know which because both were illegitimate, both had mothers called Ann and there were two Ann Grindleys at the time. Hannah Grindley (bap. 29/12/1792) would have been aunt to both Anns. Her parents were John (1753) and Elizabeth (1749) probably married in Forton 31/12/1777.
Regards,
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ColeshillCol
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 9
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Chris,
This looks fantastic!
The Grindleys have been a bit of a mystery to me for ages. You're helping me to fill in lots of links. I'd love to see the details of your wife's family - she must be my second cousin. Who were her parents? I have absolutely no information on that side of my family, after Lillian's generation, which is a bit tragic because I suspect some of them may live fairly close to me (Birmingham area).
I don't know exactly why Lillian went to America, but she went over between 1898 and 1903. She did have an illegitimate child, Frank Grindley, and the assumption in our family is that she was sent off to America in disgrace, but from what you say, half the others were illegitimate, so I guess that theory may now have a few holes in it!  Frank stayed with Mary (Lilian's mother) and the rest of the family, in Birmingham at first but then later on was sent off to America to be with his mother once she'd got herself a job and somewhere to live.
Lillian met my grandfather in New York, they married and had three surviving kids, all boys. A daughter died of poison ivy poisoning when she was 5. The family, for some reason, decided to move to England and then things went terribly wrong for them - my grandfather, who was a stonemason, soon developed heart disease and couldn't do his job anymore. The family became very poor - he got some light work, cleaning etc. but couldn't keep them. The boys were sent to an orphanage so that Lillian could go out to work to try and support the family and get enough money together to get the boys back. My grandfather died, though, and Lillian became destitute. The two older boys, who hated England, left the orphanage at about 13/14 and worked their passage on steamboats back home to New York. My dad, who was the youngest had to stay behind on his own at the orphanage. Lillian eventually met a very kind man, a widower, who married her and got my dad out of the orphanage. They'd only been married for about a year when Lillian died in a flu epidemic in 1920. Her husband adopted my dad and brought him up as his own son.
I was born in 1955, so Lillian had died 35 years before I was born. My dad died when I was 5, so I never got the chance to learn about why she'd gone to America (assuming he knew). He once had quite a lot of family records, photos, birth certificates and Lillian's letters etc, but they all got destroyed in a flood.
As I say, I'd love to get the details of your own research. Would it be possible to exchange details?
thanks for getting in touch,
Colin
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Carberry - New York, USA, UK, Ireland. Clift - Cheltenham, Birmingham, Gloucsetershire. Grindley - Shropshire, Staffordshire, Birmingham, New York, USA. Johnson - Birmingham. Johnstone - Birmingham.
|
|
|
wordanceruk
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi Colin,
Glad to be of help. Do you know happen to know the name of the chap your grandmother married in Birmingham?
Regards,
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ColeshillCol
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 9
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
His name was Frederick Todd.
She married him in Birmingham in 1918 or 1919.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Carberry - New York, USA, UK, Ireland. Clift - Cheltenham, Birmingham, Gloucsetershire. Grindley - Shropshire, Staffordshire, Birmingham, New York, USA. Johnson - Birmingham. Johnstone - Birmingham.
|
|
|
wordanceruk
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi Colin,
I thought so, which means that it looks as though she married in the summer of 1919 and died in the spring of 1921, both in Aston. The story on this side of the family was that William met his wife through his sister Lilian who was lodging with her at the time. When I first read your posts I thought that this must be wrong as Lilian had obviously gone to America before this but it now looks very possible that your grandmother was indeed lodging with Lilian Browne in Unett Street who was a war widow with two young sons to support. There is a Fred Todd living in Yardley on the 1891 census who is an train engine driver which is interesting, if he is the right man, because Lilian Browne's husband was a railway porter. It may be that brother and sister both met their spouses through the lodging arrangement.
You're very welcome to what details I have.
Regards,
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ColeshillCol
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 9
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Chris,
That's absolutely brilliant!
I can confirm that Fred Todd was a railway driver - my Mom knew him and she told me he was a train driver. She's still alive, by the way, she's 88. Aston sounds about right, as well - my Mom was born and grew up in Aston and met my dad there - they both worked at GEC in Witton, near to the Aston Villa ground. She's going to be thrilled when I tell her your information.
Thanks,
Colin
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Carberry - New York, USA, UK, Ireland. Clift - Cheltenham, Birmingham, Gloucsetershire. Grindley - Shropshire, Staffordshire, Birmingham, New York, USA. Johnson - Birmingham. Johnstone - Birmingham.
|
|
|
wordanceruk
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi Colin,
It's a pleasure. I can send you what information I have sometime if it will help.
Regards,
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
ColeshillCol
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 9
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Yes Chris.
It'd be absolutely great if you could send me the information you've got. Anything on the descendants of George Grindley would be hugely appreciated. Where do you live, by the way? I'd be more than happy to come and collect it.
all the best,
Colin
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Carberry - New York, USA, UK, Ireland. Clift - Cheltenham, Birmingham, Gloucsetershire. Grindley - Shropshire, Staffordshire, Birmingham, New York, USA. Johnson - Birmingham. Johnstone - Birmingham.
|
|
|
wordanceruk
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi Colin,
If you PM your e-mail address I'll send what I have.
Regards,
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 [2]
|
|
|
|
|
