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Cajondy
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hello there
I wonder if anyone can help clear up some confusion of mine...
I've managed to successfully locate my ancestry back to my grt grt grandfather Willaim Bateman born 1853 who could be the son of Miles and Mary (nee Udall) - or could be the son of Miles and Elizabeth (nee Parker) - this is wher my confusion begins!
His marriage certificate identifies his father being Miles (balcksmith) - which suggests he's the sone of Miles and Mary (the other Miles was a farmer!)
I have no idea how to validate exactly which is his father, and am therefore suck in progressing any further back
Miles (the Blacksmith) was from Kirkby Lonsdale and Miles the farmer was from Cowperthwaite - neither too far away from the other! To add to the confusion - both Miles had sons called William, and in both instances they were born in 1853
William married ELizabeth Capstick from Dillicar - if that helps......
Can anyone please help
thanks in advance
regards
Cajondy
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Jones - Llangernieuw,llanynys, llanrhaiadr, bangor
Foulkes - Nantglyn, Llanrhaiadr
Williams - Anglesey, Bangor
Hussey Burgh - unknown
Eames - Poss Ireland, Pwllheli, Bangor
Bateman - Westmorland
Dobson - Westmorland
Capstick - Westmorland
Dacre - Cumberland
Gainford - Cumberland
Shackley - Cumberland
Diamond - Cumberland
Harrington - Cumberland
Russell - Cumberland
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genjen
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Posts: 3217
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I have found this family which I think is the one you are looking for:
1851
Half Island House, Firbank, Kirkby Lonsdale
William Bateman, 48, blacksmith, born Lancs, Cartmel
Mary, 46, Westmorland, New Hutton
Mary, dau, 25, servant at home, Firbank
Miles, son,21, blacksmith
James, 18, " app.
John, 16 "
Betty, 10
Eleanor, 6
William, 2 grandson
Richard Greenbank, lodger
Thomas Greenbank "
Willm " "
All the children born Firbank
This looks like Miles the father of your William so in later censuses, we should be able to find him by his place of birth.
Jen
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Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
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genjen
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Posts: 3217
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I think I might have cracked this one!
We know that Miles Bateman married Mary Udall.
There is a death of a Miles Bateman, in 1859, Kendal. Dec 1859, 10b/387
In 1861, Mary Bateman, aged 28,widowed, is living as a housekeeper in Firbank, with a son Miles, aged 1.
At the same time:
William Bateman, aged 6, is with his grandparents, William and Mary Bateman at Half Island House!
So I think you can safely assume that this is your William, with father and grandfather both blacksmiths.
If you want full census details for 1861, let me know and I'll post them.
Jen
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Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
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