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Topic: Audlem/Wrenbury - where do I go next (Read 1960 times)
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Dean1
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Posts: 290
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I must have missed something somewhere - I didn't realise Kezia was still a possibility. I know I did have a good look at this family on their "tree" on ancestry.co and did, I believe contact them to be told they knew little about George (other side of the family was "more" theirs). I must admit I had discounted this family - I believe Whetstone Edge is the place where George would have been born if in this family.
I won't discount them yet but am still not convinced but it was a "dicey" family, looking at the tree and it is possible he was in there somewhere!
However, how do you account for the George in Kezia's family being married and living in Manchester in 1861 and my George being in Portsmouth in the Navy on the 1861 census?? (If of course I have got it right).
Sue
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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Dean1
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Posts: 290
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But what about my George being in the Navy by January 1860 and marrying Mary Ann Rowland in 1868 in Portsmouth. I suppose there is no reason why he may not have married before but he was definitely "joined up" in January 1860 according to his military paperwork.
I won't certainly discount the George you suggest and will have a further good look at him but ..................!
Sue
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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Dean1
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 290
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Sorry for being thick ............ now I definitely see the possibility for George being Kezia's son. One thing I do find odd but it is not a "given" that people used to follow tradition and George Foster and Mary Ann Rowland did appear to do so - at least in the naming of their children in which there is a protocol apparently except with their oldest child who they named George William R (the R is possibly for Rowland). They had a lot of children, several of whom died and I think I have them all probably - it is not until the 3rd boy is born that his first name is given as William (my grandfather) and Kezia is nowhere to be seen, even as an initial rather than fully written - is Kezia a name that is derived from another name (actually I think I looked this up when I was considering Kezia and William a while ago and it is a Jewish name).
The other strange thing about George and Mary Ann is that I can find no trace of any of their children - OK I have their births but apart from 2 possible deaths of ones who didn't died in infancy I can't find them.
I am going to look at Kezia and William's tree on anc.co again. I do believe I have been told that Whetstone Edge is in the right place for Congleton/Astbury but had great difficulty finding out about it - it appears to have disappeared and is not a town as such now - more a place you pass through.
I still have a hankering after a "born in barracks" son with William (father of George) a serving soldier/sailor whatever.
I actually found a George Foster b 1840 on the 1861 census as aged 18 and a sailor, lodging in London but he was born in Australia as a British subject - I know he is not my George but it sort of re-enforced my idea!
I have to admit that Kezia and William are in the lead now which is a shame because I didn't very much like the sound of Kezia - how judgemental can you get!
By the way, you are not "going on" about William and Kezia -I am extremely grateful to you for being so patient with me! 
Again, at the risk of being even more "thick" - if I get the Cert of George born to William and Kezia how will it prove that it is the correct George (perhaps if his dob is 4.11.1840 it will but nothing else will prove it ........ will it?) As you suggest, you can never be 100% sure but have been very cautious because I got it horribly wrong with the Wrenbury George who seemed such a good "fit" and also with the names of the children and his son George was born in 1840, so I find it difficult to "convince" myself again and so many possibilities have turned up now - not necessarily many other people but overseas births etc. 
Sue
PS Yesterday I bemoaned the fact that my registration with anc.co appeared to have lapsed - actually it hadn't - and this is the worrying part - I had not logged on! Now I am afraid you are seeing what you are dealing with here 
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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Dean1
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 290
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Am going to try and add a birth for Kezia and William at Whetstone Edge on 24th (no month or year) entry no. 2286. It came from ? Labs (can't remember what) but I kept it just in case and have found it again. I note that George was registered officially as FORSTER! Sue
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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Dean1
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 290
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My big problem now of course is that I cannot remember which website I looked at for George Foster and Kezia. I remember it was quite comprehensive and they had justified all they had found and were certain about but there were many things they were not certain about. It was an anc. co tree I am sure but which one .................... I can't for the life of me find it.!!!!  I really need to look at this tree again with all its "causes of death" - in Kezia's case I believe pneumonia etc.
Sue
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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Dean1
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 290
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Which tree is it - I can't remember and can't find it Not sure if it is allowed to quote anc.co trees but would be delighted to hear by PM if this is the case.
Sue
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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Dean1
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 290
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Many thanks for the PM with tree name. Have found it and had a good look - am cautiously optimistic
Sue
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BREWER, BALDWIN, CRONSHAW, DEAN, FOSTER, BRIGHT, ROWLAND, SEWARD, CADMAN
AREAS: Lancashire, Chingford, Epping, Gt Baddow,Essex, Alverstoke, Petersfield, Hampshire, Timberscombe, Somerset, Catfield, Kings Lynn, Swaffham, Norfolk, Hampshire, London, Brighton, Sussex, Cheshire (Wybunbury, Audlem)
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