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Topic: Please, please help - a Suffolk brickwall - a prize for whoever does! (Read 2024 times)
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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One option is to contact the Blything register office and ask them for the death certificate of anyone called Mary who died on or about 27 Jan 1840 in (presumably) the sub-district of Linstead Parva. I assume there will be only one!
There were surprisingly (to me) few Mary/Martha deaths in the district in that quarter (per FreeBMD):
Deaths Mar 1840
JESSUP Martha Blything 13 289
POPPY Martha Blything 13 290
WOODS Martha Blything 13 300
Deaths Mar 1840
ALGAR Mary Ann Blything 13 299
CRAWFORD Mary Ann Blything 13 302
GOWING Mary Blything 13 303
GREGORY Mary *hing 13 43 Deleted - image shows district was Docking
HUGMAN Mary Willson Blything 13 291
JILLINGS Mary Blything 13 292
JORDAN Mary Blything 13 302
PLANT Mary Blything 13 289
SILLETT Mary Anna Debney Blything 13 301
Of course, the fact that she was buried in a particular area doesn't necessarily mean she died there...
Anna 
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Ebor337
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Many thanks for that Anna.
Unfortunately, I have just checked all of those on Suffolk Burials and none of them are the correct Mary/Martha in Linstead Parva.  (I couldn't find any Mary Sillett or Mary Jilling though).
I was sort of thinking that the fact she was buried next to her brother, means that she would have been unmarried? Or am I way off the mark with that assumption?
As Dave, says, I think Martha/Mary could hold the key as we have Mary and John both tied down to the same parents (Stephen and Ann) via the PR's, but just need Mary's death. There are no burials of a Mary/Martha Thurston between 1838 and 1842 in Suffolk according to the Suffolk BI.
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avm228
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Could Mary's burial date in fact be Jun rather than Jan? If so it might be worth checking out the Mary/Martha deaths in Blything on FreeBMD for the June quarter in the same way as just done for the March quarter.
Also perhaps worth checking Wangford district deaths - am I right in thinking John's death was registered in Wangford?
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Ebor337
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And nothing for Wangford either!!! 
Right, i'm off to bed now, getting tired! It aint half addictive this stuff!
I'm going to dream that this is all sorted with a lovely post ready for me when I wake up!  
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suffolk*sue
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Found this marriage on Suffolk Marriage Index.
21 Oct 1834
William Clarke
Groom's condition: Widower
Mary Thurston
Place: Linstead Parva
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Death
Mary Clarke
1840
Mar qtr.
Wangford
Volume: 13
Page: 230
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JustKia
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I'm not sure whether you can see, it's a little clearer after 'photoshopping' and turnign to negative but the inscription has been altered on Susan's gravestone! You can clearly see an 'A' underneath the 'U' of June and the 'E' looks newer than the rest! Very strange! I wonder what happened there?!
That line gives me serious deja vu and I'm sure I've seen the pic of Susan's grave before. Have you posted it before? Am I going bonkers?
I've ran a search but can't find another post, yet I'm sure there was a discussion about a gravestone with an A under the U of June and the E being newer looking.
Just thinking that if it wasn't you, then maybe someone else has been looking for the same info and might have something to help.
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you? *** Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Ebor337
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No your not goign bonkers!! I posted it up a good few months ago but have now got a lot more info from the PR's which I have bought so thought I'd make a concerted effort to crack this brick wall!
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suffolk*sue
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I think this is the Petistree lady, Petistree comes under Woodbridge.
Mary Clarke
1840
Mar qtr.
Woodbridge
Volume: 12
Page: 569
If you were going to order a cert, I would go for the Wangford lady, I can't find her on the NBI.
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Ebor337
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Many thanks for this Sue, no, I cant find one for 'our' Mary/Martha either. Strange.
I think the only thing for it is to indeed order the Wangford DC and keep everythign crossed!
Just wondering though, why would Mary/Martha, be buried next to her brother in Linstead if she was:
a) married, and
b) died miles away?
This is giving me a headache now!
Just so wish I coudl crack this one which would enable me to move back a generation. 
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suffolk*sue
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Its a shame that you don't get the age of the person before 1860ish. Fingers crossed she is the right lady.
It might be worth looking in the parish register of the Clarke/Thurston marriage to see if it might give you some extra clues.
Our ancestors are up there laughing their socks off, giving us the run around.
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Ebor337
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Yes, spot on Sue!
Anyway I am goign to do 2 things that will help me solve this once and for all - order the microfiche from Linstead Parva AND order the Mary Clarke death certificate ...... watch this space!!!
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