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Topic: Look up Please/1891 and 1901 Census Middx (Read 235 times)
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Sylvie
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Can someone please help me find this family;
CHARLES INNELL, before he married he lived at 1 John Street, London, Middx. (1881 census)
I can't find his marriage, but he had a son, John Richard Innell in 1885 at Marylebone.
I have looked for both Charles and John on the 1891 and 1901 census but have had no luck....
I know they stayed in the Marylebone district as John married there in 1919.
Charles's father was John D. Innell and mother Emma Innell, he had two sisters, Nelly and Alice. (1881 census).
That is where I got stuck!!
Any help would be much appreciated..
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Mum44
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Hello Sylvie
1891
RG12. P. 104 Fol. 78 Pg. 1
37 Townsend Road. Marylebone
INNEL
Charles W Head M 29 Painter B. Middlesex St. Giles
Margaret Wife M 25 B. hereford, Bangrove
John R Son 6 Scholar B. Middlesex, Marylebone
Charles W Son 4 B. ~ ~
Transcribed Zinnel 
Charles William Innell married Q3. 1883 Marylebone
Margaret Susannah Evans on the same page
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Mum44
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1901
RG13. P. 117 Fol. 62 Pg. 2
10 Barrow Hill Road, Marylebone
INNELL
Charles W Head M 39 House Painter B. Middlesex. St Giles
Margaret S Wife M 35 B. Herefordshire
John R Son 16 Organ Builders Assistant B. Middlesex, St Johns Wood
Charles W Son 14 Errant Boy B. ~ ~
Transcribed Immell
Do you want Charles and family before 1881 ?
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Sylvie
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Oooohh yes please Mum44....your wonderful...thank you so much!
Sylvie.
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Mum44
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Sylvie - good thing you had the proper surname 
1871
RG10 P. 186 Fol. 40 Pg. 71
3 Marazon Road, Marylebone
INNELL
John D Head M 47 Waiter B. Middlesex, Long Acre
Emma Wife M 35 B. London City
Elizabeth A Dau 11 B. Middlesex, Finsbury
John Son 10 B. ~ ~
Charles W Son 8 B. Long Acre
Nellie Dau 1 B. St Johns Wood
Transcribed as Junnell
I'll try for 1861 
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Sylvie
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Brilliant....thanks!
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Mum44
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This time, the original is suspect
It seems to say Jannell and is so transcribed
1861
RG9 P. 238 Fol. 41 Pg. 28
24 Union Street, Shoreditch
John D Head M 37 Waiter B. Long Acre
Emma Wife M 25 B. Liverpool Street
Elizabeth A Dau 2 B. Finsbury
John Son 1 mth B. Finsbury
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Sylvie
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Thanks wonderful...you have given me so much more than I had originally asked for!
Thank you so much Mum44!!
Sylvie.
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Mum44
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Had a bit of bother finding John D's marriage: see what you think of this : -
Bearing in mind that John sticks to John D through all the census, I felt he would have used his middle name on the marriage.
Elizabeth, the eldest daughter - was 2 in 1861 - she was registered Q1. 1859 Shoreditch - Elizabeth Ann. So - marriage 1858 or earlier.
Q1. 1856 Newington Vol 1d Pg. 241 John Dialles Innell
but - there is no Emma on the page - nearest is Elizabeth Ceely.
This is the only John D Innell marriage at all.
There are two possible deaths for an Elizabeth Innell - both in 1857.
Maybe he married again ?
No other John D Innel marriage - but - on free bmd there is a -iall-s Innell marriage in 1858. And on that page there is an Emma Ceeley 
The image shows quite clearly Dialles Innell - Q1. 1858 Vol. 1d Pg. 246
So it looks that he married Elizabeth in 1856, she dies in 1857, he married her sister in 1858 and their daughter is named Elizabeth in 1859 
There is an extracted baptism on the IGI:
John Dialls Innell 28 Aug 1823 St Martin in the Fields
Parents John Dialls Innel and Ann Abigail
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Sylvie
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I think you've hit the nail on the head there! Dialles is such an unusual name you must be right. It all fits doesn't it.
Super sleuth to the rescue....thanks Mum44!
Sylvie.
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Sylvie
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I'm glad you do, it's helped me enormously! Thank you.
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kr236rk
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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1871
RG10 P. 186 Fol. 40 Pg. 71
3 Marazon Road, Marylebone
INNELL
John D Head M 47 Waiter B. Middlesex, Long Acre
this is almost certainly my great great grandfather on the maternal side, father of John Innell (jnr) who was my grandfather
have it on good authority that the London Innells were big in the varnish industry
KR
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