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pauly
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27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
« on: Friday 03 October 08 19:27 UTC (UK) »
Hi all.

My 3x Ggrandfather was InnKeeper at 27 High Street, St Paul, Bedford on the 1851 census & I was wondering what the name of the pub would have been then & if still standing, now.

Any help would be gratefully received!

Thank you in advance.
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woody32
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 October 08 19:49 UTC (UK) »
Have you got a name for your grandfather?

There are quite a few pubs on the 1841 census but it doesnt show the street numbers..he may have been there in 1841 as well.
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 October 08 19:55 UTC (UK) »
Hi Woody

He wasn't there in 1841, he had a shop in St.Pancras.

He was John Jenks aged 57 in 1851, born Potterspury, Northampton (spelt potters perry for the 1851 census) I don't have a record for him in 1861.

Thank you.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:04 UTC (UK) »
Hi there

Have a look at http://www.historicaldirectories.org

The 1854 Post Office directory has him listed....

Sarah Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:05 UTC (UK) »
Just beat me Sem Smiley
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:07 UTC (UK) »
Oh wow!

Thank you both very much for the info from one happy bunny Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:11 UTC (UK) »
It was actually Number 55 High Street..because he is still there in the 1861 Census as a boarder.
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:15 UTC (UK) »
Excellent.

Thanks very much Woody.

Hope to eventually get there & treat myself to a swift 1....or 2!
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:26 UTC (UK) »
This could be what it is now ....

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/75/7512/Litten_Tree/Bedford
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 October 08 20:33 UTC (UK) »
Hmmmm

well I hope it had a better rating in his day!

Thanks once again, much appreciate the input Cheesy
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Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 October 08 10:02 UTC (UK) »
1949  Kellys lists The Lion Hotel (Trust Houses Ltd) at 55 High Street - still there in 1963.
I've attached a picture of the High Street circa 1860, from Richard Wildman's Bygone Bedford which does not really show the hotel well.

At no 23, 25 & 27 is Wells of Bedford, house furnishers - which later housed Harrison - Gibsons in 1963.   

Regards John

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 October 08 11:43 UTC (UK) »
Thank you John,
Excellent photo.

I was just going to ebay to see if there was an old pics for sale. I'll keep an eye out for the book too now.

Appreciate the post Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05 October 08 16:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Pauly , Google old photo's of Dunstable & there are a few really good sites,I myself have really enjoyed looking at some really great old photo's of Dunstable & it's people,no need to be spending out on ebay.Cheers Nipy
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 October 08 17:24 UTC (UK) »
Hi Nipy

Thanks for the tip.

You must excuse my geographic ignorance, but I didn't realsie the pub was in Dunstable! This is my 1st rellie I've found from the area. No wonder I didn't have much luck on ebay & elsewhere.

Do you know if the pub would have been South or North high street?

Many thanks once again.

Pauly
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 05 October 08 18:02 UTC (UK) »
Gosh Pauly I'm going crazy,I for some reason I though I was replying to a Dunstable thread please forgive me for raising your hopes,regards  from a silly old thing Nipy
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