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Lumber-Jack
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George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« on: Saturday 04 October 08 04:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rootschatters,

I am writing the story that goes with my family tree and I have run into a questionmark!

My great  grandfather George Coggins was born for certain in Noke 6 July 1854 ( son of Richard Coggins and Ann Edwards) but the family move almost at that time to Charlton on Otmoor. He is not recorded in the register of St Giles as having been baptised in Noke. Could anyone confirm a baptismal  date in 1854 for him in Charlton ( presumably at St Mary the Virgin parish church)?

Thanks very much,

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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 October 08 08:07 UTC (UK) »

I have had a quick look in IGI and there are no baptisms for Coggins in Noke or Charlton.
Have you tried a County Records Office or Library?
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 October 08 11:46 UTC (UK) »

Found him on 1861 census. Born at Noke registration  district for Noke is Bicester.
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 October 08 13:47 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Toby and Kooky very much for the look up and suggestion.However when I go to the site for the parish of St Giles in Noke he is not on the baptismal list but his sister Eliza , who was born earlier, is. I know they moved to Charlton around 1854/55 which is why I think he may be in the baptismal record of St Mary's along with his other siblings, but I need a confirmation. Unfortunately that is difficult for me to do from Canada. I very much doubt that he was not baptised !Best wishes, Lumber-Jack
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 October 08 20:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lumber-Jack
The Charlton on Otmoor baptism transcripts range from 1572-1852. It may be worth contacting the Vicar as the register could still be in use.

Maggie

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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 October 08 02:57 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Maggie...I will try the Vicar unless I can purchase a copy of the Charlton parish transcripts at a reasonable cost as I have other relatives there I could cover too. Lumber-Jack
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 14:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lumber-Jack
I am looking for COGGINS in Oxfordshire too.
I have a family descending from Anthony and Elizabeth (abt 1630) COGGINS in the Middleton Stoney/lower Heyford area
A second family headed by William and Ann abt 1710 again Lower Heyford
And a third from William  & Eliza abt 1809 Bucknell
If you PM me an e mail address I'll send you all I have found maybe we can help each other along I am pretty sure my Heyford families should link up they have Richards and George's along the way but I can't see any that could be yours
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 September 09 23:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have a copy of the Charlton on Otmoor Parish Register.  Can I be of any help?

I can't see a baptism for George Coggins, however, the family does seem to have gone there as you say:

Anna COGGINS daughter to Richard (labourer) and Anne was baptised on 9 March 1856.

Hope this entry helps and is one of your family.  If you want me to have a search through for other relations, just say the word.

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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 September 09 03:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi Theresa, Thanks very much for remembering me! Yes there is much I would like to learn from the Charlton on Otmoor Parish Register! If you would be so kind here is the cast of characters for whom I am looking for births, marriages and deaths/burials:

All Coggins' notably: Richard (1810-1888)....is there a burial/death record?
                                 Hannah (1856-1869)....I think she is the Anna you found as a baptism 9 march 1856
                                 George (1854-1914)....this is the only place where he could have been baptised ... he is not listed in Noke registers
                                 Martha ( 1859-

                                 James Coggins (1823-1901) marriage 1857 to Charlotte Edwards (1833-1879)
John Edwards (1787-1864)...burial
Elizabeth Hobbs Edwards (1792-1863)...burial

Any other Coggins' you might discover!

Thanks, Lumber-Jack
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 September 09 12:29 UTC (UK) »

OK, here goes . . . (in stages)

These are all the COGGINS baptisms that the register index lists:

1859 Oct 23: COGGINS Elizabeth d James and Charlotte lab Charlton (Rec'd 6 Nov) - this means that she was baptised at home in October and then in the church on November.  Obviously a sickly baby that recovered.

1861 Sep 3: COGGINS Goodworth s James and Charlotte lab P.B. (not sure what this last bit means) Charlton

1863 Aug 11: COGGINS Anne d James and Charlotte lab Charlton

1865 Sep 24; COGGANS Gladdie d James and Charlotte lab Charlton

1867 Jul 7: COGGINS Ada d James and Charlotte lab Charlton

1869 Sep 26: COGGINS Owen s James and Charlotte lab Charlton

1872 Sep 3: COGGINS Anna d James and Charlotte lab Charlton

1874 Jun 14: COGGINS William d James and Charlotte lab Charlton
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 September 09 12:39 UTC (UK) »

These are all the COGGINS marriages listed:

17 Dec 1808 Lic

FORKNER William Psh Steeple Barton Co. OXford
COGGINS Mary of Fencot Psh Charlton on Otmoor
Wit: Richard Cooper; Mary Cooper

12 Nov 1857 banns

COGINS James FA bach lab Charlton s Thomas lab
EDWARDS Charlotte FA spin d John lab
Wit: Mary H.....?; Elizabeth Symonds

14 Dec 1880 banns

HARRIS Thomas FA Bach lab Oddinton s Thomas lab
COGGINS Martha spin Charlton d Richard lab
Wit: Henry Harris; Eliza Coggins

30 Oct 1884 banns

HAYNES Jacob 44 widower lab Fencot s Richard (decd) lab
COGGINS Eliza 43 spin d Richard lab
Wit: Richard COGGINS; Martha Harris
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 September 09 12:44 UTC (UK) »

and the burials

5 Jan 1869 COGGINS Hannah cyphus fever age 13 Charlton

8 Mar 1888 COGGINS Richard (died in Bicester Workhouse) 78 Charlton

Will now turn to the Edwards . .
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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 September 09 12:54 UTC (UK) »

The Edwards burials that you wanted . . .

1863 May 24 EDWARDS Elizabeth 71 Charlton

1864 Mar 11 EDWARDS John 80 Charlton (Note beside that says that this was the first burial in the new cemetery).

There is more Edwards birth/marriages/deaths as they appeared quite numerous in this parish.  To save me coping the lot out, are there any particular bits you want me to concentrate on e.g. children of x and y .

Theresa

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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 September 09 12:58 UTC (UK) »

Going back to George Coggins, there is definately no baptism there . . . however, you might want to consider the following parishes which were close together and therefore also on my CD:

AMBROSDEN
BICESTER
CHESTERTON
KIRTLINGTON
MERTON
WENDLEBURY
WESTON on the GREEN

Let me know what you want me to check . . . .

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Re: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 September 09 04:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Theresa....Thanks very much for a wonderful reply which must have taken you some considerable time. It  completed most of my entries.

Other readers may be interested to know that James and Charlotte Coggins emigrated to Canada along with their children so this may provide some valuable linkages for others.

I still have a couple of questions of clarification:

Is John Edwards' burial March 11 1864 or March 1?

Is Richard Coggins ( my gt gt grandfather) buried in St Mary's even though he died in Bicester Workhouse....should I be looking for a marker?

Where is the baptism of Martha Coggins....it should be in Charlton parish in 1859? Hannah was baptised there in 1856!

Where is the baptism of George Coggins around 1854?

For the latter two and taking your list of parishes, it is possible that they were baptised in the parish of  father Richard's birth...Weston on the Green...also the deep ancestral home of the Coggins; or at Oddington where mother Anne was baptised.

I am also still seeking additional proof that the maiden name of John Edwards' wife Elizabeth was Hobbs with a marriage of 8 Feb 1813 Wolverton Buckinghamshire, England

I do not need any more Edwards', but thanks again! Lumber-Jack

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