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Topic: George Coggins 1854-1914 baptism location (Read 1001 times)
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tesskrose
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Hi,
I can confirm that Richard was buried in St Mary's - the burials are a list of who is buried in that church and his presence on this list means he is there in the churchyard. Good luck in finding a marker. If he was in the workhouse he would not have had much money and more likely to have received a pauper's burial really. Unless the workhouse was acting as an old age home because his family were not present to care for him being in Canada.
I have double-checked John Edward's burial - it is says 11 March for sure.
I've checked for Martha Coggins again for 1859 and the years around it - it is not there.
I will check Weston on the Green and Oddington for you though. I would place you request for Wolverton on the Buckinghamshire page if you have not done so already.
Theresa
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Trees
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Just a quick observation people who died in the workhouse were returned to their own parish for burial. The work house was paid for by a group of neighboring parishes or the union of those parishes it meant that the parishes concerned no longer had to pay "parish relief to the poor and infirm they just set them to the workhouse but they still had to bury the dead paupers of the individual parish hence there are o burials at any work house.
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tesskrose
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Hi Again,
The only John Edwards that married in the Otmoor parish did so during the 1600s.
I don't have access to the Oddington Parish Registers unfortunately.
Am just checking Weston-on-the-Green for those Coggins children . . .
Theresa
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tesskrose
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There are loads of Coggins baptisms in the Weston-on-the-Green Parish Register, but during the 1850s there are none for Martha or George, or any that have parents called Richard and Ann. They are all for John and Mary-Ann, or John and Ann.
Theresa
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Lumber-Jack
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Hi Trees and Orpheus,
Thanks for the interesting debate over whether my grt grt grandfather would have been buried in the workhouse or in the parish cemetery. I do not think from an old design I have, that Bicester Workhouse had its own cemetery. I could try Bicester church yard I suppose.
If the Charlton parish records recorded his death then I guess that vicar must have buried him....but that is just a guess...and I doubt there is a headstone at Charlton St Mary's to verify this....he and his family were too poor.
One other angle I read is that Bicester Workhouse, where he died in 1888, could have contributed his body to medical science under the 1832 Anatomy Act, we shall never know.
Thanks to you both for your help, best wishes, Lumber-Jack
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Cook, Coggins, Rutherford, Wheatley - Northumberland, Cumberland, Scotland, Australia
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tesskrose
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Hi George,
Your ancester is definately buried in St Mary's. The information I have given you is from the Parish Register's burials for the church. This is a list of who is buried in the church yard and the dates that they were buried. He is there, I promise. However, his burial stone, if there ever was a stone, is very unlikely to have survived. With my own ancestors I have been lucky to find older stones and the oldest I have are from 1880.
The burial register just noted that he had actually died in Bicester, but he was buried in the churchyard. If he was buried elsewhere, there would not be an entry.
Glad to be of service,
Theresa
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Trees
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Hi Orpheus thanks for pointing that out I visited Southwell Workhouse earlier in the year and that was what we were told (I checked with a couple of people that were with me last night and we are sure that was what was said however looking at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/ it is clear that you are correct I have emailed Southwell to make sure the impression given is not repeated. I have now a feeling of horror as to why I cant find the burial of my great Gran who died in the workhouse infirmary. She was not an inmate and her children were not taken into the cottage homes until some time after her death but now I wonder was she ever buried or was she given for medical research ..chilling thought
Again my thanks for clarifying the situation
Trees
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Orpheus
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Hello Trees
Do you know if there is a surviving death register for the Workhouse in which your great gran died? If so her death should be recorded in it and it should say where and when she was buried. However, in some cases the corpse was taken for burial by friends or relatives and the date and place of burial may not be stated.
Orpheus
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Trees
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I must admit as my Aunt still lives near Birmingham she has been doing the local research on that particular line so I haven't looked for the work house burials for Birmingham. Aunty has not been too well of late and I don't want to upset her by stepping (after all its her Gran and my great Gran too) but as soon as I get an opportunity I will try to find out more. I need to find out what happened to the two children between her death and their admission to the cottage homes some time appart to so someone was looking after the younger girl after grand dad was picked up "by a fine lady in a carriage and taken to Marston Green" (Grand dad's words) family tradition has it that he was found by Miss Cadbury though this is going to be hard if not impossible to prove.
Anyway thank you for your interest Orpheus
Trees
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