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Jim43
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Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« on: Sunday 05 October 08 07:35 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone help with the attached Newlands parish record. It reads:

David Son of Donald McDonald near the ------ born Novr 14th 1758 and Baptized the 27th of said month by Mr Alexr Robertson.

I am unable to understand the word I have replaced with dashes.


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heedrapper
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 October 08 08:58 UTC (UK) »

It looks like 'Whine' but I couldn't find any reference to a place of that name. I think it must be 'Whim'. Go to the link, and press the top star in the north-east corner, it says Whim, settlement.
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/parishes/parmap845.html
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 October 08 09:31 UTC (UK) »

Another link, with 3 references to Whim.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sctpee/genuki/peeblesshire.htm
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Rose of Kilravock, Wilson, Colvin, Dingwall, Ogston, McRae, Fraser, Ross, Stuart, Niven, Lumsden, Urquhart, Graham, Remmage, Black, McColl, Allen, Hogg, Miller.
IRELAND:
Trouten, Webster, McNeil, O'Neil, Finley, Robinson
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 October 08 09:37 UTC (UK) »

Brilliant spot heedrapper.
Do you know whether there are any old detailed maps of the area?

I know Jim is particularly interested in an area / place called Newhall

Dave
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 October 08 09:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dave,
Try this link, it's not the best map in the world, but you may see what you want.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/PEE/map.html

Bill.
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IRELAND:
Trouten, Webster, McNeil, O'Neil, Finley, Robinson
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 October 08 10:09 UTC (UK) »

I think we're getting there Jim,
Cheers again Bill.

Jim,
Just up from Whim on the map Bill suppliied.....




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ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 October 08 10:18 UTC (UK) »

Try g**gling.....             

"newhall" "peebleshire" lots of good stuff.
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Rose of Kilravock, Wilson, Colvin, Dingwall, Ogston, McRae, Fraser, Ross, Stuart, Niven, Lumsden, Urquhart, Graham, Remmage, Black, McColl, Allen, Hogg, Miller.
IRELAND:
Trouten, Webster, McNeil, O'Neil, Finley, Robinson
daval57
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 October 08 10:34 UTC (UK) »

Bill,
you've been so much help.

I only got involved through a random meet on Ancestry.
I found what I thought might be a rellie of Jims through SP.
Suggested to Jim he tried here (RC) to clarify the place name. 

I reckon you've come up trumps.

Dave.

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BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES       
http://daval57.tribalpages.com/
heedrapper
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 October 08 10:39 UTC (UK) »

You're welcome. I'm glad to give something back. So many clever people have spent a lot of time helping me on this site, when I get stuck.
Bill.
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SCOTLAND:
Rose of Kilravock, Wilson, Colvin, Dingwall, Ogston, McRae, Fraser, Ross, Stuart, Niven, Lumsden, Urquhart, Graham, Remmage, Black, McColl, Allen, Hogg, Miller.
IRELAND:
Trouten, Webster, McNeil, O'Neil, Finley, Robinson
daval57
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 October 08 11:25 UTC (UK) »

You're right Bill about giving things back.
I take advantage of the knowledge on RC at every opportunity.

I never hesitate to return the favours.

e.g. I can call upon folk to do a search on Ancestry for me.  They're paying the subs, I'm not.
It's only fair that I spend some time / pennies searching SP for others.
I might never directly return the favour to the original person, but I reckon it'll be passed along at some point.

Dave
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BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES       
http://daval57.tribalpages.com/
Jim43
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 05 October 08 11:42 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley Thank you to all who have contributed to this discussion, especially Dave who pointed me in this direction. I am pretty sure I have found my ancestor now although I am not sure how to confirm it definitely. The information I have is that David MacDonald was aged about 75 when he died in London in 1835. He was a tailor and left a wife (Mary) and three sons aged between 7 and 15. He was born in Newhall, Scotland. The problem has been the number of Newhalls in Scotland, but with Dave's aid, I think Newhall in Peeblesshire is the one I want. The birth record would make him 76 at the time of his death. I have downloaded Chambers' A History of Peebleshire (1864) from Googlebooks and hope that will help me to understand the time and place.

Jim
Melbourne, Australia and hoping to be able to visit Scotland one day

PS Just noticed all is two. Thanks guys. This has made my day.
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daval57
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 October 08 12:12 UTC (UK) »

Told you it was a good site Jim. Grin
Hope you join in again, if not on this board, but one of the others.
Lots of folk from Oz on here.

As an aside, my best pal from when I was a kid lives in Melbourne.
Tommy, do you know him?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire)
BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES       
http://daval57.tribalpages.com/
Jim43
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05 October 08 23:24 UTC (UK) »

Sorry. The only Tommy I know is Russian, but I do know another Glaswegian resident in Melbourne – not too bad a bloke for a Campbell   Roll Eyes

Jim (of Clan Donald)
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daval57
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 October 08 23:52 UTC (UK) »

I laugh Jim.
More than once, when I've mentioned that I come from Glasgow, I've been asked "Do you know .....?"
Depending on my mood, I usually say something along the lines of "Not very well, but I knew his brother"

Considering there's about half a million of us, I probably have upset most!
Grin

Dave
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FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire)
BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES       
http://daval57.tribalpages.com/
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Re: Interpretation od parish record Newlands 1758
« Reply #14 on: Monday 06 October 08 20:38 UTC (UK) »

hi Jim43!
We farm at a place next to Whim, where the principle house is now, and has been for many years a care home for the elderly.We live on a farm in Newlands Parish and my brother-in law lives in Carlops, near the estate of Newhall!
I have the 3 volumes of the History of Peeblesshire, if you need anything looked up.
We have friends from Mornington, Melbourne, who visited lately - small world??
PS Peeblesshire has 2 's' and is also known as Tweeddale - 2 'd's!!!!!

Avril
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