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Topic: 1891 census completed Thanks (Read 560 times)
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CU
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Looking for
John James born 1832 Oldbury Grocer
Mary wife born 1842 Oldbury
John son born 1862 Oldbury Glass cutter
George son born 1874 Oldbury
They were living on Frazer Street on the 1881 & 1871 census
Thank you
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ricky1
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Hi CU
1891
A possible
John James head wid 58 retired forman Worcestershire Oldbury
Thomas " son u/m 24 student in western theologicaly "
George " son u/m 18 grocers asst "
living at 34 Rood End road?, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Rg12/ 2265
folio 116
page 16
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CU
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Thank you Ricky but its not my man. He did have a son Thomas,
but he had married and move by then.
Thank you any way for your help.
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ricky1
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1891
John James head mar 31 glass cutter Oldbury Worcestershire
Mary A " wife mar 29 "
John T? " son u/m 10 months "
Clara? D Field sister u/m 23 assistant "
living at 2 Frazer street, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Rg12/ 2265
folio 74
page 14
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CU
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That great Ricky, you found the son John, still in the same street 
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tazzie
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The married Thomas in 1891 married to Elizabeth appears to be the son of Thomas & Eliza James also of Oldbury and b 1866/67.
The Thomas with John is also married by 1901 .
Tazzie
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CU
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Hi tazzie,
My Thomas James who I did not put on the first request married in 1889 to a Elizabeth Vardy.
I am now trying to trace his parents John and Mary James of Frazer Street.
Ricky very kindly found my Thomas James older brother, John
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ricky1
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hi CU
I looked along Frazer Street on the 1891 just to see if they were there , like they were in 1881, but they aint there, but seems strange as Rood End road runs off or near to Frazer street  .
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CU
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Thanks for looking Ricky, they must of move 
Here we go again
Many thanks
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tazzie
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Ok ......
So you have the marriage cert of Thomas to Elizabeth Vardy and does it say his father is John James ?
Tazzie
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Hi CU
I went back to 1871, and on that census he was a forgeman living at Frazer street
Rg10/ 2975
folio 110
page 15
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CU
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Yes, the marriage certificate state father name John James.
Yes, Ricky that the man and again on 1861 he is a widr with his Daughter Julia
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ricky1
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1861
John James head wid 29 forgeman Oldbury Worcestershire
Julia " dau u/m 4 "
living at Talbot Street, Oldbury, Staffs
Rg9/ 2021
folio 129
page 13
1871
John James head mar 39 forgeman Oldbury Worcestershire
Mary " wife mar 29 "
Julia " dau u/m 14 scholar "
Thomas " son u/m 5 "
living at Frazer street, Oldbury, Staffs
Rg10/ 2975
folio 110
page 15
1871
John James nephew u/m 11 Oldbury worcestershire
living in the household of Thomas Russett(s) and family at
Frazer street, Oldbury, Staffs
Rg10/ 2975
folio 110
page 16
1881
John James head mar 46 grocer Worcestershire Oldbury
Mary " wife mar 39 "
Julia " dau u/m 23 "
John " son u/m 20 glasscutter "
Thomas " son u/m 15 "
George " son u/m 7 "
living at 1 Frazer street, Oldbury, worcestershire
Rg11/ 2839
folio 12
page 18
is this the correct family 
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CU
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Yes that them Thanks Ricky
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ricky1
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Hi CU
looking on the 1871
there are two Thomas James born 1866 ish Worcestershire both with fathers called John 
one is down as born Worcestershire
one born Oldbury Worcestershire
then in 1891 there are two who say born Oldbury, one marred to an Elizabeth, and the one I found
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