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SC
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1861 census HOLLAND
« on: Tuesday 07 October 08 01:25 UTC (UK) »

 
Would it be possible to find a Thomas Holland and wife Jane in Bolton or Wigan in 1861
I am hoping this is Jane born abt 1840 in Wigan
Possible marriage in Sep Qtr 1860 so not sure if there would be any children

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SC



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karenlee
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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 01:42 UTC (UK) »



Hi SC

There is this one :-

1861 Census England Lancashire Everton
RG9/2712/91/38
6 Richard Street

HOLLAND
Thomas Head marr 30 Iron Moulder Lancashire Wigan
Jane Wife Marr 31 Iron Moulder's Wife Lancashire Wigan
Thomas Son Unmarr 9 Scholar Lancashire Wigan
Mary Dau Unmarr 7 Scholar Lancashire Wigan
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 3 Lancashire Wigan
Ellen Dau Unmarr 9mths Lancashire Wigan
Sarah MITCH?? Lodger Wid 68 Washer Woman Lancashire Wigan

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Karenlee

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SC
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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 02:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi karenlee

Thanks very much for the census entry
I somehow don't think this is the Jane I'm looking for as she is pretty consistent with her census ages l- born abt 1840 in Wigan - this one is too old but at least I can rule her out

But many thanks
SC
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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 September 09 23:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I am still looking for Thomas Holland and his wife Jane - they are not the ones quoted above, that couple have now definitely been ruled out

My Thomas married in 1860 so prob no children by the census, in fact I'm not sure there were any from the marriage at all
Thomas died in Wigan Dist in 1862 age 23
His wife Jane was definitely born in 1842 in Wigan, I have her cert, and she remarried in 1865

It is poss that they could be in Bolton but I suspect either way the spelling has to be mistranscribed as they were not found before

Any info would be most helpful
Thanks
SC

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SandraC
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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 September 09 08:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi SC

What about .. .. ..

1861 census, Ince - Manchester Road
RG 9/2781 folio 47 pg 15

Thomas Holland; head; mar; 21; labourer at colliery; Wigan
Jane do; wife; mar; 20; cotton spinner cot fac; Wigan
Alice do; dau; 3m; Ince

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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 September 09 08:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi SC

LancashireBMD has a death of an infant Alice Holland in 1861 in the Hindley area of Wigan?

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Also, Craggs, Hamer, Sampson, Hesketh, McNamara, Hodson.

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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 September 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sandra

Thank you very much for finding Thomas
That is indeed much more likely and I just looked on FreeBMD - there is a birth Mar Qtr 1861 for Alice and 2 possibles for her death Jun or Sep Qtr 1861

I wonder if Thomas died in some sort of colliery accident now that you have found his occupation - he was very young

Many thanks
SC
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Re: 1861 census HOLLAND
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 October 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sandra

Sorry to go back abit.
This is about the Walthew connection.
I think the "Abel Walthew" referred to in one of your earlier posts may be "Absalom Walthew" born about 1837, married 1857.

There was also a william Walthew who married Eliza L (Elizabeth) Jones about 1833 in Anglesey. William was born in Holyhead but there is no other record for him from the time period.
there doesn't seem to be any children. Eliza died in 1877 and in the land registration of the 1870's is lised as owning 22 acres in holyhead. This probably came to her from her father . It may be worth seeing if there is a link to the other jones's marrying into the walthews about this time.

As regards there are Hollands married into and from the Walthews from the 1600'sin and around Wigan, Standish, Upholland and Ince.
There is a marriage in the earlier 1800's and the name is carried down as "Elizabeth holland walthew"
If you have anything on Abel and/or absalom I would be grateful

Edward W
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