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Tephra
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Rabbit B's Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« on: Tuesday 07 October 08 12:40 UTC (UK) »

Hello and welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and it's Rabbit B's turn and she's desperate!!!   But if anyone can help her I know you can.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara

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Ellen Byrne/Burns was born in 1869-872.  I was told in Co Galway Ireland, and that spelling of her name was BYRNE.  So I got her marriage certificate and couldn’t believe it when I saw surname spelt BURNS

Her Father was Patrick and her Mother Margaret Carr! So the family story runs. A cousin says that they come from Wexford, but it gets more confusing because I have now been told by her daughter, my aunt, that she was born in Galway.  When I started my researches I was told that she wasn’t born in Ireland but that she was born in Liverpool.  Dad was born there so I sent for his birth certificate and low and behold it was Burns as her maiden name on that too.  Confused, I sent for her daughter’s certificate [my aunt now RIP] and it was spelt BYRNE.  12 children I cannot afford all those certificates, but Cousin insists that his mother told him it was Byrne.

One or two kind people have helped me hunt for her and we all come up against a brick wall.  On the 1901 census the front page has the whole family, James Hoyle, her husband and all the children, and then squashed in at the bottom is my dad William, who was born 1900 that year 11months old.  Patrick Byrne on the original, spelt Byron on the top copy is also squashed in the same line is a servant, which was a surprise named Annie Davella born in Wales.

On the 1891 census original Patrick spelt Burns widower, is living with his daughter Ellen Hoyle and her husband James Hoyle.  I am hoping that the Margaret and her son are a sister of Ellen and grandson of Patrick; they are visiting at the time.

Ellen?? [Whatever spelling] married James Hoyle in the Parish Church in Liverpool on 9th April 1889. He was 20 yo and a mariner and Ellen was 18 yo and living according to the certificate no 243 at Hopwood? Street the Father Patrick is spelt Burns, but OH says that they have left the tail of the y off the page and that he can see it. It is not like that on the certificate I have for my Dad’s birth.

So that is all I know!  I want to find Ellen’s birth to trace back my Irish roots; she had a very strong Irish accent and was a staunch Roman Catholic. However I have been told that the Parish church is protestant, so could she have converted?  How could I find that out?  That would be relevant because ½ my Dads family are Catholics and the rest of the family are Protestants!

There are dozens of Ellen Byrne’s in Liverpool, also Ellen Burns!  The records office in Liverpool, have been brilliant.  They have looked at a lot of them for me! But cannot find no one can find her

Now I need HELP Please!  I will never sort it on my own.

Rabbit B
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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 12:57 UTC (UK) »

 Grin
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:01 UTC (UK) »

Just me so I can keep an eye on it (and help Grin Grin )

Glad the wedding anniversary celebrations went well and I loved the cake!

Rosie  Roll Eyes
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:03 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Rosie!  Kiss

If the girls and boys crack this I will be eternally grateful!
I need all the help I can get!

Rabbit B  Grin
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Nibbs/London
Brealey/Staffordshire
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Hoyle/Liverpool
Tephra
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:04 UTC (UK) »



Lesanne, you beat Toni..........well well well....... Grin Grin Grin
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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:06 UTC (UK) »

I'm here toooooooo  Grin
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Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Debs

Nice to see you!  Kiss

Rabbit B  Grin
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:10 UTC (UK) »

i was on my lunch break  Roll Eyes
will read through

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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:12 UTC (UK) »


  So am i but dont know if i will be much help Grin

  Never tried searching Ireland yet Grin

                Sue
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:13 UTC (UK) »

firstly when searching Ireland you need
County (tick)
Name (tick)
and Denomination (tick)
to be able to get anywhere

Byrne i can see pronounced as Burns and thus spelt that way by the English (Wales) registrars
was she illiterate - then she may not have known any different


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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
toni*
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:18 UTC (UK) »

have you tried here ?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/04gt/

you know her father to be Patrick is that right?

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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi rabbit

On the 1881 ellen is with her parents b Liverpool
Barnmouth St, Liverpool
Patrick Byrns head mar 43 dock lab b Ireland
Margaret wife 44 b Ireland
William B son 23 brass finisher b Liverpool
Mary B dau 16 shirt maker b Liverpool
Ellen B BYRNS dau 12 shirt maker b Liverpool

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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:21 UTC (UK) »

This should be an interesting one  Grin

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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Folks,

Yes Patrick is the name on the marriage certificate as her farther.  See above for the spelling!

I thought that you would like to see who you are searching for
so here is a picture of her taken in 1958 with me in Liverpool!

Rabbit B  Grin


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Conning/London
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Nibbs/London
Brealey/Staffordshire
Melbourn/Melbourne/Cambridgeshire
Hoyle/Liverpool
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Re: RabbitB's Third Go Round Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 13:23 UTC (UK) »

Irish records don't begin as early as ours- have a bit about then at home  - and if they did they havent survived. although the PR's do.
i will read the bit in my book because i don't want to give out false information

you may be able to find them in the griffiths evaulation though but Patrick and Margaret are pretty standard Irish names

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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
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