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Topic: Janet Milligan born about 1812 (Read 186 times)
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trudym
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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on the online parish clerk for lancashire I have Thomas and Janet staying at Pembroke on July 1843. According to all the talk in the two branches of the family, Thomas was not born in England and I do not find any entry anywhere for 22 August 1841. That date is on his birth certificate in Samoa.
They lived in district of Everton, in West Derby, and the last address was Tarlton Street when James my husbands grandfather is born.
That item about Thomas Jardine marrying Sarah Milligan is amazing, because of the the subscriber Forrest connection.
The Thomas Meredith born 1810 also has a brother John but John is born in Worcester, but I see you put Claines as being in Westmoreland. not Worcester. John has a daughter Frances or Fanny marries a Forrest and the son George is sent to New Jersey when her brother Samuel goes and they go to Passaic Paterson where Samuel is involved with Silk Industry and a factory as his wife is Maryanne Nightingale and hence the new jersey connections. That connection sent me on this journey but all I had was a name
John and a family tree for the son, nothing else. So with great help am filling the gaps. Im not registered with Ancestry.com so could someone post a message on there about this connection, thanks alot
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MonicaLesl
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Trudy
I think the reference to Westmoreland on the 1851 for Thomas' birth place is in error. I found this on IGI:
THOMAS MEREDITH Christening: 19 APR 1810 Claines, Worcester
Parents:TIMOTHY MEREDITH and MARY
I think from your other post, regarding possible brother John, you do have a potential reference for a father Timothy www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,418215.0.html
Monica:
What is is that you are concerned about regarding copyright as mentioned in my last post?
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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trudym
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its just that thing down on the right hand sign about reporting to administrator. Why does the the national archives come up a lot. a lot of my information is my own it seems weird. Im new this is only my 2nd topic and a read something in how to use this that if I ddint put something about info from archives being copyright or I could be blocked from using. I hope Im doing the right thing.
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trudym
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there is a problem with Timothy being the Father of John and Thomas and whoever else we have not yet discovered. Because we we thought there were only 3 in a family there were 4 others but two passed as infants. So Im expectng to find that John and Thomas have other siblings. Now it is really strange, Timothy must have done something really bad but not one descendant down to 5 generations even uses Timothy as a name of one of their children. John has 8 or nine, Thomas has 7, his thomas has 3 by first marriage and 13 by second marriage., our James
has several by first marriage, and one by second, If he has done that then that would be the excuse or timothy is not their father.
I found a Marriage of a Timothy in st swithuns, worcester for a Mary and two children John and Thomas. but I had the conception that Thomas was older. But I dont have a birthdate for him, just a guess. He is married in 1834 and Thomas in 1840 so he could be five years older so born about 1812 according to the 1851 british census if it is correct.
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MonicaLesl
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You are doing fine on copyright Trudy, nothing to worry about  If you are quoting information, as I am from censuses, then RC prefer you to include the disclaimer on the copyright issue for information you are posting on here.
I think the Thomas born in Claines is likely to be the right one. You have him in 1851, married with wife away in Scotland visiting, in the right area and occupation.
One way for you to verify is to look at the marriage of Thomas and Janet which will include father's name and occupation for both of them. This shows on freebmd on:
Marriages 4th Qrt 1840
MEREDITH Thomas Liverpool 20 285
Milligan Jannet Liverpool 20 285
There are other names on the entry but what makes me confident that this is the right entry is that there is a number of trees on Ancestry all quoting this marriage with a specific date:
25 October 1840 in Liverpool - Thomas Meredith, aged 30, father Timothy and Janet Millingan, age 24, father William.
You might want to verify this yourself by ordering the marriage extract but looks to fit well with the information that you have so far.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Thomas is also quite precise on his ages for the 1841 and 1851 censuses (31 in 1841 and 41 in 1851) fitting well with that likely 1810 birth.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Did Thomas and Janet have a last son Samuel? There is this possible entry for them in 1871 in Liverpool:
Thomas Meredith 61, lamp lighter b. Worcester, Worcestershire
Jennet Meredith 51, b. Scotland
Samuel Meredith 20, son, stone mason b. Liverpool
RG10; Piece: 3809; Folio: 71; Page: 38;
Janet's birth year has got progressively younger over the years 
There is this possible birth for Samuel:
Births 1st Qrt 1852
Meredith Samuel in West Derby 8b 337
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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