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artimus
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Am looking for two individuals who resided in Hawick prior to emigrating to Canada: Thomas and Margaret Smith. They had one issue - John James born circa 1903. Thomas immigrated to Rainy River, Ontario, Canada circa 1907 - sending for his wife , Margaret circa 1910-1912. He had been a Spirit Merchant in Hawick, County Roxburgh.
For a time they had resided in Northern England (?) - John James possibly may have been born in England.
Thomas Smith belonged to the Masons and continued the association in Canada until his departure from this life.
Thomas or his wife had cousins by surname "Redpath."
Is anyone able to assist me?
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Gadget
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Welcome to Rootschat 
John James Smith was born in Wilton Roxburghshire on 21 Dec 1902. His parents were Thomas Smith, spirit merchant and Margaret, maiden surname Blaikie.
They married July 12 1901 in Wilton
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Gadget
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The marriage cert gives their parents names as:
Thomas (aged 32)- John Smith, spirit merchant and Isabella m.s. Morrison
Margaret (aged 33) - James Blaikie, wool dyer (deceased) and ?Seton m.s. Laurie
I'll be in touch.
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Gadget
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IGI (extracted) has a birth for Margaret::
29 April 1868 Wilton, Roxburgh
Parents - James Bleakie and Seton Lawrie
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Gadget
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1901 Census
8 Wilton Path, Hawick
789/2 ED 5 Page 25
Seton Blaikie , 67, widow of a wool dyer, b. Hawick
Mary, 39, Power Loom Tweed weaver, b. Hawick
Margaret, 32, Power Loom Tweed weaver, b. Hawick
Janet, 31, Tweed Darner, b. Hawick
Agnes, 28, dressmaker, b. Hawick
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1891 Census
8 Wilton Path, Hawick
810 ED 6 Page 28
James Bleakie, 59, wool dyer, b. Hawick
Seton , 59 , , b. Hawick
Mary, 30, Tweed Power Loom weaver, b. Hawick
Janet, 28, b. Hawick
James, 25, woollen frame work knitter, B. Hawick
Margaret, 22, Tweed Power Loom weaver, b. Hawick
Agnes, 18, dressmaker, b. Hawiok
George, 17, Power loom ?tuner app, b. Hawick
John, 14, Tweed factory worker, b. Hawick
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artimus
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Much obliged to you, Gadget! 
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Gadget
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The Smiths are a wee bit more difficult - but we'll get there - hopefully
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artimus
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Re: Smith's departure from UK...
Thomas departed circa 1905- 1908 (?).
He sent for his wife, Margaret and son, John James a number of years later - 1910- 1911.
Family lore has John James wearing short pants with leggings during his first winter in North Western Ontario, Canada. So, that places John James still a lad , not old enough for trousers.
I do not have access to census - either here in Canada or the UK.
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Gadget
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Still problems with the Smiths - and so many on the Shipping lists 
Anyway, the Blaikies/Bleakies:
Marriage, 1 July 1859, Hawick - James Bleakie and Seton Lawrie
IGI (extracted) www.familysearch.og
There is a submitted record for Seton's birth but no real info - just b. 1832 d. 1905 Hawick.
The marriage cert would be on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It's pay to view but pretty reasonable. The cert would cost £1.20 or equiv. You have to register and buy credits in min of £6 blocks (1 credit = 20p).
I'll look up the 1851 census to see if James and Seton are with parents.
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This looks like the Lawries in 1851:
5 Teviot Crescent Hawick
District 789 ED 5 P 3
James Lawrie, 50,Woollen frame work knitter, b. Thornhill, Dumfriesshire
Mary, 47, b. Thornhill
James, 25,Woollen frame work knitter
Jannet, 25, worsted stocking seamer
Seaton, 19, Woollen frame work knitter
John, 17, Woollen frame work knitter
Wilhelmina, 7
Margaret Bell, niece, 14 Woolen stocking seamer
Walter Wilson,, grdson, 1
All b. Hawick except James and Mary Lawrie
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1851
Laidlaw Place, Wilton
District 810 ED 1 Page 1
Janet Blaikie, 48, winder - woollen yarn , b. Hownam
Robert, 21, mason (app)
James, 19, woollen hand loom weaver
Margaret, 16, woollen turner
Joseph, 10, pauper - scholar
all except Janet b. Wilton
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hume
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Hi artimus and Gadget,
It may be worth trying to find Thomas (perhaps Margaret & John too) in the 1911 Canadian census. It's available to search and view here: http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp. Lots of Smiths though, but it may help narrow down when they emigrated over.
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1841 Listed together with a Scott family:
Wilton Bank No 5, Wilton
District 810 ED 1 Page 10
Robert Bleakie, 48, Stocking M J Wool
Janet, 38
Robert, 11, Winder Yarn - Wool
James, 8
George, 6
Margaret, 5
Jospeh, 1
all b. Roxburghshire
Thanks , hume
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Marriage IGI extracted:
Wilton 15 Feb 1829 Robert Bleakie and Janet Rutherford
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