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Topic: Deaths at Seaton Sluice-burial place(s)? (Read 3106 times)
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Annied22
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Hi Andrea,
It's the "other" Dickinson family that you're tied into, although if we go back far enough, there's a good chance there'll be a connection somewhere. I do have an unconfirmed marriage between Eleanor (Ellen) Sankey Dickinson and Joseph Sharp. Ellen was born in 1859.
The Miss Crisp you mention is probably John Harris Crisp's daughter. Her cousin, Mary Ann (Minnie) Johnson taught at the local school in Seaton Sluice for many years. Another cousin, Jen Crisp also taught, although she moved away from the area when she married William Batton. My grandfather, John (Jack) Dickinson, who was a second cousin to Miss Crisp and first cousin to Minnie and Jen also trained as a teacher, although he never worked as one. (I often wonder if his cousins, all of whom were older than him, had taken all the available jobs by the time he qualified!!) He actually moved to Hebburn to find work as timekeeper at Hawthorn Leslie's shipyard.
It fascinates me, that at a time when women were expected to leave school, marry and raise a family, that that particular generation of my family clearly believed in educating their daughters as well as their sons.
The Elders appear first in my family in my great great great grandfather's generation and then again in the next generation. They were seafarers and had moved to Seaton Sluice from Suffolk. When I first started researching my family history, some 25 years ago, I had some long talks with Nancy Elder, who, as a child, had lived next door to my family on Rocky Island.
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Dickinson, Forster, Crisp, Davy, Sankey, Herdman, Watts, Elder, Seaton Sluice
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micksharp
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Hi Belhay
Do you have any other Sharp names in your family? My family are from Hartley / Murton / Shiremoor via Yorkshire and Durham - GGGranda William Sharp (not involved in Hartley Pit Disaster, later in Ashington), GGranda Luke Sharp, Granda Walter Sharp.
I recently went on a hunt in Earsdon cemetery as Luke and my other GGranda Hugh Millar are in there somewhere - it's a mess if you want to find graves (only as far back as 1930 and 1943!) but a great nature reserve!
Thanks, Mick Sharp
Sharp Millar Middleton Brooks
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Millar, Miller (Bannockburn, Edinburgh)
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belhay
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Hi My mothers aunt was mary elizabeth cook langley who married Watson sharp at old hartley about 1900. They had children Watson Dryden Sarah Mary Ada Minnie. I,ve lists of sharps in the hartley/sluice area and can check out deaths for EARSDON when I,m down at Woodhorn colliery archives(Northumberland archives) Unlike the churches in my area the Earsdon vicar keeps the only copy of the plan of the cemetery and the church is not open daily so whenever I,m down visiting relatives I,m not able to get any information. Most of the graves from about 1900and up to 1960 at least were built into the side of the hill and the area has eroded so its quite dangerous to walk on. When I have time in the new year I,ll dig out the list off Sharps that I have.
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micksharp
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Thanks. I don't think we're related.
Was up at Woodhorn a couple of weeks ago and looked at the burial registers for St Albans - Luke Sharp (my GGranda) is definitely in the cemetery somewhere. I know there's a number you can ring to get info about the graves and if you'd like me to do and have a look for anything you want - I'd like to find out where Luke is as well!
I know what you mean about the dangerous graves - I did a bit prowling around last week and it's in a state.
By the way, you can search the Northumberland Archives online and I know there are a few photos of Watson Sharp's house:
http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/catalogue/Quicksearch.htm?submit=Search+Catalogue
My GGGranda William was only in Hartley briefly (I think!). He is living there in 1874 when he married my GGGrandma Elizabeth Dobie. However, his sister Mary married Richard Bloomfield and are living in Quarry Row by 1881 so he might have moved up there and stayed with her.
Let me know if you want me to get the Earsdon info.
Thanks, Mick
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belhay
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hi thanks for the offer to look up information. I have photos of Watson sharps house thanks my mother was born at the West End Old Hartley so I,ve photos of the area and I still have cousins and a niece living there. The only person I,m stuck on and so is everyone else it seems is Thomas Langley born 1796.died 1845 I know he is buried at Earsdon but I don,t know where On his childrens baptism records he states Stonemason of Jarrow but his marriage differs each time.between Tynemouth St Hildas, Earsdon, All Saints newcastle and I can,t find a marriage at any of these churches. I seem to have everyone else from the Old Hartley area accounted for. Earsdon churchyard hasn,t always looked a mess. I used to go there often in the 1950s 60s and the graves were all in neat rows going down the hill I,m glad my mother isnt able to see the mess its in now.
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Annied22
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It wasn't too bad 25 years ago when I found my great great grandfather's grave near the Hartley Pit Disaster memorial, but I could weep at the mess it all is now. The last time I was there that whole area was completely overgrown. You could no longer even see any gravestones, let alone read them. Winter is certainly the best time to have any chance of searching successfully.
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micksharp
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I've just spoken to the vicar at St Alban's and have been told that no actual maps exist. He was very helpful - the plots (dating back to the 1700s) were only numbered and no actual names were entered on a register! This is because they thought a) who'd be looking for ancestors two hundred years hence?, and b) people knew where their recently-deceased relatives were. So, unless you know a plot number, you won't find anything.
However, some students did some research and they did manage to cross-reference something with something else so he has a very incomplete list of who's buried where. Unfortunately not my GGrandparents.
Mick
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Annied22
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Hi Gary, that's quite a job you're taking on - good luck!
I've been meaning to go up there to see if the undergrowth has died back enough to see my great great grandparents grave again, as I'd like to take a photograph of it. I'd better get a move on and see if I can uncover it sufficently for it to be included in your records too.
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