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Topic: Belfast Area no.4 on the IGI (Read 2056 times)
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akanex2
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Are you sure it's Ballinderry, Co Antrim you are looking for? There is also a Ballinderry civil parish on the Co Derry/Tyrone border with a Roman Catholic Church you could try.
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Maccahc
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Thats great, Mcdonnell street may be easier to find.
The marraige entry said that Sarah Morgans parents John and Isabella were from Ballinderry, Co. Antrim and she was RC so I am presuming they were and that some church records there may ( or may not) survive. I will continue to look into it when I have the chance, many thanks again for the helpful replies.
RosemaryJoan is that genealogical atlas available online?
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Mckay,Darragh-Antrim
Paterson,?Mailess-Holytown
Lynch-Drumlish,Longford
Daly-Ire/Lanarkshire
O`neill-IreLanarkshire
Kelly-Ire/Lanarkshire
Rourke-Ire/Lanarkshire
Hackett-Pettigo,Fermanagh/Glasgow
Mctear,Lemon-Down/Glasgow
Mcpeak, Mcgrogan,Davit,Mckerry-Derry/Lanarkshire
Limerick, Galbraith-Ire/Ayrshire/Lanarkshire
Mcguigan,Morgan-Belfast/Glasgow
Cannon- Leitrim/Lanarkshire
Mcglade-Armagh/Ditto
(Mc)Comisky-Ire/Linlithgow
Gallocher,Meechan,Hanlon-Donegal/Lanarkshire
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RosemaryJoan
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No it's not, It's an American Publication, but I find it invaluable. I am willing to do look-ups in it. It cost me $20.
Here are the details
'A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland', 2nd edition
by Brian Mitchell, in 2002
published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.Baltimore, Maryland,USA
RosemaryJoan
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Cully, Bannister, McConnell, Wallace (Co. Armagh) Anderson, Ross (Co. Antrim), Gray, Truesdale (Co. Down)
McCormick (Killyleagh and finally Belfast)
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aghadowey
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GoogleEarth shows McDonnell Street still there between Grosvenor Rd and Albert Street. There's what looks like a school on Grosvenor Road nearby but not sure what it is called.
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RosemaryJoan
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I've just looked at my 1931 Belfast street map, and lo and behold, St. Peter's R.C. Church is just across Albert Street, in Milford Street, a short walk away from McDonnell Street.
RosemaryJoan
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Cully, Bannister, McConnell, Wallace (Co. Armagh) Anderson, Ross (Co. Antrim), Gray, Truesdale (Co. Down)
McCormick (Killyleagh and finally Belfast)
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Maccahc
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Thats grand and confirms that it was more than likely Mcdonnell rather than Mcdonald St they lived in. I can look for more Mcguigans in that area now, excellent to have some good local knowledge. Thanks also for the lookups offer RosemaryJoan.
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Mckay,Darragh-Antrim
Paterson,?Mailess-Holytown
Lynch-Drumlish,Longford
Daly-Ire/Lanarkshire
O`neill-IreLanarkshire
Kelly-Ire/Lanarkshire
Rourke-Ire/Lanarkshire
Hackett-Pettigo,Fermanagh/Glasgow
Mctear,Lemon-Down/Glasgow
Mcpeak, Mcgrogan,Davit,Mckerry-Derry/Lanarkshire
Limerick, Galbraith-Ire/Ayrshire/Lanarkshire
Mcguigan,Morgan-Belfast/Glasgow
Cannon- Leitrim/Lanarkshire
Mcglade-Armagh/Ditto
(Mc)Comisky-Ire/Linlithgow
Gallocher,Meechan,Hanlon-Donegal/Lanarkshire
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RosemaryJoan
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Maccahc - Being one for a challenge I had a look for your Morgans in Ballinderry.
There is a small fragment of the 1851 census online and guess what?
LEGATIRRIFF TOWNLAND, BALLINDERRY,CO.ANTRIM
John Morgan Head (of family), 48,weaver, born Co. Antrim
Isabella Morgan, wife, 40 born Co. Antrim
John Morgan, son 17, weaver, born ditto
Isabella Morgan, daughter 14,weaver, born ditto
Jane Morgan, daughter, 11, winder, born ditto
MARY MORGAN, daughter 8, winder, born ditto
Sarah Morgan, daughter, 6 no occupation, born ditto
Hugh Morgan, son, 1 ditto ditto
They were not there in 1861 when Griffiths Valuation was taken, but
in Belfast in 1861 there were 6 John Morgans living there. They may have moved up to Belfast for work. One of them lived in Linden Street, (a short walk from McDonnell Street), and in 1877, no John Morgan living in Linden Street, BUT John McGuigan, dealer, lived in number 43 - not there in 1880. These streets still exist. They are on my modern Street map of Belfast.
Does this fit in with your information??
There are possible marriages listed in Ancestry Ireland for some of these children of John (Co. Antrim) and you might be able to double check the place of their marriage on the new LDS site.
Enough for now.
RosemaryJoan
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Cully, Bannister, McConnell, Wallace (Co. Armagh) Anderson, Ross (Co. Antrim), Gray, Truesdale (Co. Down)
McCormick (Killyleagh and finally Belfast)
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Maccahc
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RosemaryJoan that is fantastic information. I knew very little about the Morgans other than my greatgreat grandmother Sarah was married to John Mcguigan in Belfast around 1871( now confirmed as 1872). They had a daughter Susanna in area 4 (now I know its mcdonnel street) in 1873.
Between that date and 1875 they moved to Glasgow where son John was born and in 1879 my greatgrandmother Jane Mcguigan ( now know where the family name Jane comes from too!) was born, I am informed by internet `cousins` they may have had another sister Margaret but I cant find a birth for her here or in Belfast so am not sure about that one, Sarahs husband John died in 1879 so my greatgrandmother never knew him.
However you have given me a great deal of information on a line of the family I know very little about, so many thanks again, if I can ever be of any help with Glasgow lookups please contact me. I have a 4 week old baby and a lot less time than ususal but can help out, the poor law records here are a superb resource.
Cheers
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Mckay,Darragh-Antrim
Paterson,?Mailess-Holytown
Lynch-Drumlish,Longford
Daly-Ire/Lanarkshire
O`neill-IreLanarkshire
Kelly-Ire/Lanarkshire
Rourke-Ire/Lanarkshire
Hackett-Pettigo,Fermanagh/Glasgow
Mctear,Lemon-Down/Glasgow
Mcpeak, Mcgrogan,Davit,Mckerry-Derry/Lanarkshire
Limerick, Galbraith-Ire/Ayrshire/Lanarkshire
Mcguigan,Morgan-Belfast/Glasgow
Cannon- Leitrim/Lanarkshire
Mcglade-Armagh/Ditto
(Mc)Comisky-Ire/Linlithgow
Gallocher,Meechan,Hanlon-Donegal/Lanarkshire
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akanex2
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I was at GRONI this morning and they have a sheet on the wall giving rough indications of the area covered by each sub district within Belfast. I jotted it down for the benefit of all those Rootschatters who have been scratching their heads over when these places are on the map. Hope this helps 
Belfast Registration Districts
Urban
1 Fleet St, York Dock, Jennymount St
2 Limestone Rd, New Lodge
3 Shankill, Clifton Park Ave, Old Lodge Rd
4 Lisburn Rd, Botanic, Ulsterville
5 Divis St, Millfield, Norfolk St, Argyle St
6 Eglantine Ave, Wellington Pk, University St, Rugby Rd
7 Greencastle, Whitehouse, Whitewell
8 Woodvale Ave, Ligoneil Rd, Alliance St, Ballygomartin Rd
9 Falls Rd, Broadway
10 Springfield Rd, Brookmount, Mayo St, Cambrai St
11 Ormeau Rd, Ravenhill Rd,Woodstock Rd, Castlereagh Rd
12 Beersbridge Rd, Connswater
13 Connsbrook, Belmont Church Rd, Bloomfield Ave, Knock
14 Belmont Rd, Ballyhackamore
15 May St, Joy St, Bosnia St
16 Albertbridge Rd, Mountpottinger Rd, Queens Island
Rural
1 Whiteabbey, Cloughfern, Jordanstown
2 Cavehill Rd, Ballysillan, Glencairn
3 Finaghy, Stockmans Lane
4 Glengormley, Carnmoney, Ballyhenry
Castlereagh
1 Dundonald, Gilnahirk
2 Holywood
3 Cregagh Rd, Ballygowan Rd, Ladas Drive
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gaylehogberg
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Hi I just saw your post on Roots Chat. I also have Morgan's from Northern Ireland. They were from Lisburn, but as I have other relatives from Balinderry (I believe a parish in Lisburn), there may be a relationship. My great great grandfather was Hugh Morgan born about 1845, I think in Lisburn. Their family was Church of Ireland though. I don't know Hugh's parents. He moved to Canada in the early 1900's and his wife was Ann Jane Vernon.
thanks
Gayle
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