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gpaul
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Hi,I was hoping that someone would kindly do a look up for me,I'm looking for any info on Joseph Thomas below & his wife,I have this info already,but hoping to go back a little further.I'd also like to know when Gwylim Thomas was born.
The info I have is from the 1881 census on familysearch.org
JOSEPH1 THOMAS was born Abt. 1843 in Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales. He married ELIZABETH. She was born Abt. 1848 in Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales.
Notes for JOSEPH THOMAS:
Occupation Coal Miner
Children of JOSEPH THOMAS and ELIZABETH are:
i. DAVID2 THOMAS, b. Abt. 1866, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
Notes for DAVID THOMAS:
Occupation Coal Miner
ii. THEOPHILUS THOMAS, b. Abt. 1868, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
iii. JOHN THOMAS, b. Abt. 1876, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
iv. DYDIMUS THOMAS, b. Abt. 1880, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
2. v. GWYLIM THOMAS, b. Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales.
Generation No. 2
2. GWYLIM2 THOMAS (JOSEPH1) was born in Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales. He married ANN.
Child of GWYLIM THOMAS and ANN is:
3. i. ERNEST GARFIELD3 THOMAS, b. Ponthenri,Llanelli,Carmarthenshire.
Thank gpaul
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osprey
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probable death reg for Frances
Frances Thomas age 29 june qtr 1873 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 201
possible remarriage
Joseph Thomas sept qtr 1873 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 576 with Elizabeth Edwards on the same page
possible birth reg for Gwilym, given aged 9 on 1891 census
sept qtr 1881 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 373
dec qtr 1881 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 394
1861 9 Wayne St, Cwmdare, Aberdare RG9/4067 folio 55 pg 16
Theophilus Thomas head mar 30 (that's what it says on the census!) coal miner
Hanah wife 37
Joseph son 18 coal miner
John son 16
Mary dau 14
Margaret dau 12
Elizabeth dau 10
Sarah dau 6
Jonah son 4
Daniel son 1
all born Carms,Llanelly
1851 no 1 Trebeddod, Hengoed, Llanelly HO107/2468 folio 395 pg 1
Theophilus Thomas head mar 32 collier
Hanah wife 27
Joseph son 9
John son 7
Mary dau 7
Margaret dau 2
Elizabeth dau 7 months
all born Llanelly
marriage cert for Joseph would confirm father's name & occupation
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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osprey
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wonder if this is Theophilus in 1841?
Hengoed, Llanelly
Thomas Rees 50 ag lab
Theophilus Thomas 20 ag lab
Hannah Stephens female servant 15
Mary Thomas female servant 15
all except Theophilus born in county.
This group appears twice on the 1841 - crossed off at ref HO107/1379/4 folio 26 pg 5 and again at HO107/1379/8a folio 3 pg 5
possible marriage
Theophilus Thomas dec qtr 1842 Llanelly vol 26 pg 823 with Anne Stephens on the same page
birth cert for one of the children would confirm mother's maiden name
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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gpaul
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Hi,thanks to everyone who responded to my request,this is brilliant news,have to check up on a few things,but it does looks pretty good so far.
Thanks again gpaul.
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gpaul
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Hi, thanks for everything,spot on,I was hoping that you could do me another search,to go further back than Theophilus Thomas 20 in 1841.
Thanx
gpaul
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gpaul
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Yes please,thank you wozzle
gpaul
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osprey
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the Theophilus born Llanwinio is a different family. He is on the 1861 census with wife Esther in Trelech a'r Bettws RG9/4145 folio 26 pg 14.
He's not on the IGI for the established church in Llanelli where he says he was born, so more than likely non-conformist. Just a few to chose from
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llanelli/Chapels.html
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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osprey
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I'd have saved you typing them out if I'd managed to type my post faster. Sorry!
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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gpaul
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No sorry guys, but these are not the ones,thanks for all your hard work,very much appreciated.
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osprey
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do you mean that none of the census details are correct? The details for 1871 certainly match the details from the downloaded tree you gave. Certificates needed to confirm details of parentage.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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gpaul
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Sorry osprey,my mistake wasn't looking properly 
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