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George Stroud
« on: Sunday 12 October 08 21:05 UTC (UK) »

George Stroud would appear to have been born in 1804. The age on his death certificate was 42. He died in Dorchester on 11/12/1846. The only other date that I have to the year of his birth is the 1841 census in Dorchester1811 from an age of 30'. He married Elizabeth Hutchings in Teignmouth in 1835. She was born in 1812. George started a coachbuilding business in Dorchester. George and Elizabeth had 3 sons.
I assume that George was buried in Dorchester but I haven't been able to verify this as I haven't found burial records for 1846. Any ideas? (Elizabeth was buried in Exeter in 1888.)
George and Elizabeth's youngest son (my great grandfather) was named William Hopkins Stroud. Is Hopkins a clue to George's mother?Huh
Their eldest son George Hutchings Stroud was sent to school in Axminster , Devon and I have found an elderly Stroud widow living in Dorchester who was born in Axminster. Could this be George(1804) mother?
Who were George's parents? Did he have any siblings?
Normally I would have a look on the Hugh Wallis files for Axminster and see if they have a male Stroud marrying a female Hopkins, however it doesn't appear to be working this evening. I have had a look in Dorchester marriages without any luck.
If anyone has any ideas I would be very grateful!
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 October 08 15:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
From the NBI

George Stroud
Date of burial  18 Dec 1846
Age at death  42
Date of birth  1804
Place of burial  West Stafford, St. Mary (Anglican), Dorset.

Hope this helps,
Cathy Smiley
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 October 08 18:50 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks. I wonder why he wasn't buried in Dorchester?
All I need now is     where was he born?
                              who were his parents?
                              were there any siblings?
I've been onto the opcdorset site which I have normally found fantastic for my Dorset ancestors but guess what - no BMD for West Stafford for me to search to see if this is where George was born. I've found a Samuel born 1799 with parents George and Elizabeth (maiden name Oliver not Hopkins as I had hoped!) all living in West Stafford. Could these be my George's family?? Can anyone help??
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 October 08 10:32 UTC (UK) »

Hurray the Hugh Wallis site is up and going again but still disappointment as the Strouds for West Stafford have a gap between 1787 and 1836. I've also tried several of the surrounding villages without any luck. I think I may have made a mistake over the parentage of Samuel as I can no longer find him other than census returns give his place of birth as West Stafford and he lives near George and Elizabeth(very foolish not to have written it down!) but I have found a william Stroud and a James Stroud both sons of George and Elizabeth - one born in March 1803 and the in June 1805 both at All Saints in Dorchester, which could just about leave a gap for George in 1804. However George and Elizabeth were married in 1796 which would lead me to think that they
would have had children before 1803.

Any ideas???
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Just to let people know that I eventually found the answer. Your help Cathy with George's burial made me think that he must have been born in West Stafford. ' Findmy past' has just opened some more parish records and I invested in some credits to get my answer - christened in West Stafford- parents George and Elizabeth.
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 July 09 13:27 UTC (UK) »

Cathy - are you able to help me out once again. George's father was also George and died in Dorchester(probably West Stafford) in  the last quarter of 1849. Are you able to tell me if he was also buried in West Stafford? And is an age given? I've looked at the NBI website but haven't managed to fathom out if I can access the information from it myself Huh
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 July 09 06:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi again,
There are the following entries in the Parish Records collections ( on FMP, i have a subscription so if i can help...)

Burial
George Stroud
Date of burial  6 Dec 1849
Age 86
West Stafford, St Mary, Dorset.

I see you have George jnrs baptism record
Possible siblings
Baptisms
All children of George and Elizabeth, baptised at West Stafford

Mabel Stroud  18 March 1792
Mary Stroud   30 March  1794

Will look for a few more.
Can t find a marriage for George and Elizabeth tho.( ah,i see you have it)

Cathy Smiley
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 July 09 06:48 UTC (UK) »

Also
Baptisms
All children of George and Elizabeth at West Stafford
Samuel Stroud Mar 20 1796
Mabel   Stroud May 6 1798
Samuel Stroud Oct 12 1800

Children of George and Elizabeth Stroud
Baptised at All Saints, Dorchester

William Stroud Mar 27 1803
James Stroud  Jun 23 1805

There are also two burials in 1797 which might account for repetition of childrens names at West Stafford.
Burials
Mabel Stroud 16 Nov 1797
Samuel Stroud 25 Nov 1797

No guarentee they are all siblings of George but a pretty good bet.

Best wishes
Cathy Smiley
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 July 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »

Thank you so much Cathy. I suspected that would be about the correct age for George as his son was the ennumerator for one of the census' and assumed that he would write in a correct age.
Are you able to find out who George's (1763)parents were and possible siblings? There isn't much about West Stafford online. The www.opcdorset.com is great but unfortunately West Stafford has had only the minimum of work and doesn't have an OPC.
Meanwhile I shall have a look into these other siblings as I have now finished my research into what happened to George jnr's coachbuilding business.
Have just realised that the Mabel baptised in 1792 and Mary 1794 are before the marriage in 1796. Have you any idea whether there was more that George and Elizabeth Stroud? I'm fairly sure that I have got the date correct from the website but I suppose that it could be a transcription error due to being difficult to read.
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #9 on: Friday 17 July 09 15:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Sorry,i seem to have exhausted my resources and can t find anything more on the Strouds.
If the 1841 census is correct and they are the corrrect George and Elizabeth, then Elizabeth was born c1762.
If they married in 1796 that would be quite late in life to marry especially in those days.
Or perhaps they had children, then married.
Grasping at straws there is a baptism for a George Strode(transcribed) born Dec 1763 in Thornford ,Dorset,
mother and father George and Mary.
Not sure if  Thornford is anywhere near Dorchester.
Best wishes
Cathy Smiley
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Re: George Stroud
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 July 09 16:57 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for looking Cathy. I'm still wondering whether the 1796 should be 1790 0's and 6's are easily mistranscribed. I shall have to see if I can get a photo copy of the marriage entry. Devon has got a very good online request system.
Thornford is south of Sherborne so I'm not at all sure if this would fit the picture.
Once again many thanks for your help.
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