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Topic: MACDONALDS of Skye (Read 2967 times)
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Nigel1959
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I will have another look at my stuff as it's been over 12 months since i last looked for this side of my family as no more leads.
From memory she was born Morag but married Marion and known as Marion to my mother who was told of her, she died of TB.
But it's her parents who i cant trace.
Her father was a Fisherman and operated a ferry i am sure on sky as my grandad always told the story of holidays there and the cottage which had no chimney just a hole in the thatch-this was a very big memory to him as the Barclay side of the family was extremely wealthy at this time
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KathyM
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There is a family on the LGS site -
Angus Mc Donald born 1853 North Uist
married c. 1880 - North Uist to Flora (born 1857 North Uist)
children
Isabella - 1881
Catherine 1882
Donald 1885
Janie 1888
Rachel 1889
No Marion/Morag though !
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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Nigel1959
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Yep i think i had found that as well but thats the outer Hebrides not Skye or around Skye and because there is no Morag i dismissed it as being not the one, infact i think i looked for an Angus and Flora elswhere and still no good.
Also at the time of her wedding i did see her parents address as different but couldnt make it out, it didnt say Skye though something else
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KathyM
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I think you should check it out again !
There is a ferry from Lochmaddy (North Uist) across to Uig on Skye.......
the original 'famous' Flora Macdonald was (according to some sources) born in Benbecular......then lived on Skye later !
Also - when I searched for Morag - it brought up Sarah -
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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Nigel1959
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So i can understand that me stupidly thinking that the ferry would go from Skye to the mainland, i never thought for one minute that a ferry would go any where else, but how does Marion who was really Morag suddenly become Sarah------Also you could have something here because my mom told me that there was something about the original Flora Macdonald but i just thought that was all fairy tale stuff
Thanks again
Nigel
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KathyM
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I always think that if you turn over enough stones, eventually you will find something under one of them!
If you go onto the LDS 'familysearch' website and in the search enter MORAG....it just brings up loads of Sarah's....... I don't know why - perhaps there is a connection ??
Another thing - I found a family tree for THE Flora MacDonald and there are both Angus' and Marion's in her family - YES! I know they are probably very popular Scottish names !
http://www.genealogy.com/famousfolks/floram/
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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Nigel1959
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Ok Kathy certainly something to think about but where is the connection to your Angus and Flora to my Morag/Marion/Sarah when they dont have a kid of that name, and also in Flora Macdonalds tree there is no link to an Angus or Flora from her offspring.
I have phoned my mom who is out but will call me back later tonite to see if she can remember anything to help
Thanks
Nigel
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KathyM
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I have no idea Nigel !
I am just thowing out ideas - in the hope that something might trigger off an idea from some-one else -
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« Last Edit: Thursday 19 January 06 22:36 UTC (UK) by sarah »
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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maclennan25
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Hi there. i found something on the 1881 census for skye that may be of interest. 
here is a family that list 2 daughters by the name of marrion - either, there was an error of the name being recorded or in fact the 2nd marrion (aged 2 here) must have been a grand daughter or similar....
i have also added some info from the igi.
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i hope this might be the family you are looking for.
kind regards,
Lorna.
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Fletcher, Maclennan, Paterson, Christie, Macdonald,
Gibson, Grant, Macleod, Mackay, Wood, Beaton
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Nigel1959
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Thanks Lorna thats very interesting i will check it out WHEN my mom gets back to me as she has all my Mcdonald stuff and has had for nearly 12 months even though she is sending it back to me every other week and was phoning me back on Sunday------is it any wonder tracing your family tree is so difficult, she never forgets the bingo i can tell you.
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Nigel1959
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Thanks Janette i will check it out 
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jcrobson
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here is a family that list 2 daughters by the name of marrion - either, there was an error of the name being recorded or in fact the 2nd marrion (aged 2 here) must have been a grand daughter or similar....
Actually it was quite common for there to be 2 siblings with the same name.
At this time in Scotland there was a naming pattern that was followed quite strictly.
I got this from another site online, but I don't recall the source:
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TRADITIONAL NAMING PATTERNS IN SCOTLAND
These naming patterns are not iron clad, but were used extensively. We have found the patterns to be extremely useful in identifying possible family groups. Later research is then used to verify these family groups, such as Old Parish Records and census. By the latter part of the 1800's however, people were beginning to expand a little on the naming of their children. That gave far more variety; but then for us genealogists perhaps it was a step they should not have taken.
Daughters
1. Firstborn daughter - named after her maternal grandmother (her mother's mother)
Variation - named after her paternal grandmother (her father's mother)
2. Secondborn daughter - named after her paternal grandmother (her father's mother)
Variation - named after her maternal grandmother (her mother's mother)
3. Thirdborn daughter - named after her mother
4. Fourthborn daughter - named after her mother's oldest sister
Variation - named after her maternal great grandmother (her mother's maternal grandmother)
5. Fifthborn daughter - named after her father's oldest sister
Variation - named after her paternal great grandmother (her father's maternal grandmother)
Sons
1. Firstborn son - named after his paternal grandfather (his father's father)
Variation - named after his maternal grandfather (his mother's father)
2. Secondborn son - named after his maternal grandfather (his mother's father)
Variation - named after his paternal grandfather (his father's father)
3. Thirdborn son - named after his father
4. Fourthborn son - named after his father's oldest brother
Variation - named after his paternal great grandfather (his father's paternal grandfather)
5. Fifthborn son - named after his mother's oldest brother
Variation - named after his maternal great grandfather )his mother's paternal grandfather)
USE OF MIDDLE NAMES
One of the more perplexing questions we found was "Where did these middle names come from that sounded like surnames?"
Here are some of the tips we have found:
1. It was customary to name at least one child's middle name after the surname of the local parish minister who christianed that child. For example, in our Meikle family, we had a James Dewar Meikle. For years we looked for a familial connection to the Dewar family to no avail. Then we saw a tip somewhere about the parish minister. Sure enough, in the baptism records for James Dewar Meikle, the parish minister was Hugh Dewar.
2. It was also customary to name a child's middle name after the surname of the person for whom they are named. For instance, Agnes Templeton Meikle was the thirdborn daughter of George Meikle and Agnes Forrest Templeton. Hence, the name Agnes since she was thirdborn, and the middle name of Templeton, denoting her mother's maiden name.
3. It was also common to give sons and daughters a middle name denoting the maiden surname of the mother. This is helpful when trying to identify the maiden surname of the mother.
4. If a child died during the parent's childbearing years, it was VERY common to use that name again. Thus, if Elizabeth Wilson was born on 1 Jan 1800 and died 3 Feb 1803, the next daughter born was given the name of Elizabeth. That makes it difficult to follow the naming patterns.
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I had this experience in tracing one of my ancestor's family's where there was actually 3 ``Malcolm``s born! :
- the first son was named Malcolm (Father's father) - he died at 3 months of age
- the next son born was named Malcolm, again (Father's father had to be followed)
- the following son (2nd) was named after the mother's father
- the next son (3rd) was named after his father
- the next son (4th) must have been named after the father's oldest brother (again, Malcolm) to become the 3rd Malcolm born - and the 2nd living one!
I hope this helps.....
Jamie
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Heather Anne
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:)Thanks for the interesting info on names....was just browseing through...looking for MacDonalds of Morar and found this little gem
Ciao
Heather
Im new at this and all thumbs...can't get me smilies working!!!
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Thomson
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi,
On doing research for Christina MacDonald who married John McNeil I have found a lot of MacDonalds or MacQuien would like to know what is the connection between these two names I think my family came from Waternish by what my Mum tells me ,I find a Christian MacQuien married to John MacNeil in Camuslusta in the cencus could she be a MacDonald?
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