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London City, East London, W London Registrations
« on: Sunday 27 February 05 13:09 GMT (UK) »

These are the churches in the City of London.   It is called that after 1870 for BMDs.  Before that they were registered as London City, East London and West London so if your ancestor says he/she was born in the City of London they could have been baptised at one of these churches.

London City
Created 1st January 1870 (by uniting City of London, East London and West London districts).
Sub-districts : Allhallows Barking; Broad Street; Castle Baynard; Christchurch; Cripplegate; London City; Queenhithe; St. Botolph; St. Brides; St. Sepulchre; St. Sepulchre and All Hallows).
GRO volumes : 1c (1870-1930).
All Hallows Barking, All Hallows Bread Street, All Hallows the Great, All Hallows Honey Lane, All Hallows the Less, All Hallows Lombard Street, All Hallows London Wall, All Hallows Staining, Barnards Inn, Bridewell, Christ Church Newgate Street, Glasshouse Yard (1870-1901), Holy Trinity the Less, St. Alban Wood Street, St. Alphage London Wall, St. Andrew by the Wardrobe, St. Andrew Holborn below Bars, St. Andrew Hubbard, St. Andrew Undershaft, St. Anne Blackfriars, St. Ann and St. Agnes, St. Antholin, St. Augustine Watling Street, St. Bartholomew by the Exchange, St. Bartholomew the Great, St. Bartholomew the Less, St. Benet Fink, St. Benet Gracechurch, St. Benet Paul's Wharf, St. Benet Sherehog, St. Botolph Aldersgate, St. Botolph without Aldersgate, St. Botolph without Aldgate, St. Botolph by Billingsgate, St. Botolph without Billingsgate, St. Christopher le Stocks, St. Clement Eastcheap, St. Dionis Backchurch, St. Dunstan in the East, St. Edmund, St. Ethelburga, St. Faith, St. Gabriel Fenchurch, St. George Botolph Lane, St. Giles without Cripplegate, St. Gregory by St. Paul's, St. Helen Bishopsgate, St. James Duke's Place, St. James Garlickhithe, St. John the Baptist Walbrook, St. John the Evangelist, St. John Zachary, St. Katherine Coleman, St. Katherine Cree, St. Lawrence Jewry, St. Lawrence Pountney, St. Leonard Eastcheap, St. Leonard Foster Lane, St. Magnus the Martyr, St. Margaret Lothbury, St. Margaret Moses, St. Margaret New Fish Street, St. Margaret Pattens, St. Martin Ludgate, St. Martin Orgar, St. Martin Outwich, St. Martin Pomeroy, St. Martin Vintry, St. Mary Abchurch, St. Mary Aldermanbury, St. Mary Aldermary, St. Mary at Hill, St. Mary Bothaw, St. Mary le Bow, St. Mary Colechurch, St. Mary Magdalene Old Fish Street, St. Mary Mountshaw, St. Mary Somerset, St. Mary Staining, St. Mary Woolchurch, St. Mary Woolnoth, St. Matthew Friday Street, St. Michael Bassishaw, St. Michael Queenhithe, St. Michael le Querne, St. Michael Paternoster Royal, St. Michael Wood Street, St. Mildred Bread Street, St. Mildred Poultry, St. Nicholas Acons, St. Nicholas Cole Abbey, St. Nicholas Olave, St. Olave Hart Street, St. Olave Old Jewry, St. Olave Silver Street, St. Pancras Soper Lane, St. Peter Cornhill, St. Peter Paul's Wharf, St. Peter le Poer, St. Peter Westcheap, St. Sepulchre without Newgate, St. Stephen Coleman Street, St. Stephen Walbrook, St. Swithin London Stone, St. Thomas Apostle, St. Vedast Foster Lane, Whitefriars Precinct.
Registers now in London City district.

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Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
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Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 May 05 12:33 BST (UK) »

Searching ancestry u.k for death of ancestor found on 1891 census in Aldgate St Botolph...what district of London would this be to search for death between 1891/1901  Have put in Aldgate..nothing and St Botolph and not one death with the christian name....maybe this was a sub district and registrations were in the main district...help please
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 May 05 17:41 BST (UK) »

St Botolph was in the East London registration district.

East London
Created 1st April 1838 (renaming of Bishopsgate district). Abolished 1st January 1870 (incorporated into London City district). In Middlesex.
Sub-districts : Cripplegate; St. Botolph.
GRO volumes : II (1838-51); 1c (1852-69).
Glasshouse Yard, St. Botolph without Aldersgate, St. Botolph without Aldgate, St. Botolph without Bishopsgate, St. Giles without Cripplegate.
Registers now in London City district.


I would not restrict myself to any particular district as they could have died elsewhere.  For example if they died in hospital they could be registered in another district.  You should look at all deaths in the East End of London.  What was the persons name?

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Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
Kent: Beer
Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
East London: Middleton, Gower, O'Farrell, Smith, Weston
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 May 05 17:50 BST (UK) »

Hello there

many thanks for your reply...very informative...

Looking for death of great grandmother...born 1853 Agnes Evans..Lewes Sussex...Had grandmother Caroline Louise 1879 unmarried on b/cert.Know she lived or married Alfred William Trenter..found them on 1881/1891 Census but have never been able to find marriage or death of Agnes as Evans or Trenter..I know she died before 1901.
1891 address Aldgate...think they spent most of their adult life in East End...

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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 May 05 18:08 BST (UK) »

Sorry I can't find them either.  I even looked under Agness as one of mine was found with the SS at the end.  You could also try Evan without the s.  Thats how I found my Williams family.  It's a puzzle isn't it. 

You could put a request on the lookup section saying what you have looked for.  Someone may take up the challenge.  Was Alfred a widower in 1901?

Sorry I can't help.  I'm sure they are there somewhere, probably under a different spelling or a different first name.

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Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
Kent: Beer
Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
East London: Middleton, Gower, O'Farrell, Smith, Weston
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 May 05 18:15 BST (UK) »

Hello again

Thanks again ..Alfred died aged 56 in 1895 I have not aquired the death cert yet to find out who notified death...death certs are not as much good to genealogists as the scottish ones THEY ARE FANTASTIC they tell you so much more...will still plod on....

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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 May 05 18:23 BST (UK) »

Might be worth getting that to see if it says if he is a widower or if it names his wife.

Now another tale about my family.  One of my ancestors was in East London, born and married, until the 1881 census.  I found her in Sheffield with her son.  Then in 1891 her son turned up in Portsmouth and low and behold his mother died there aged 85.  The moral of this tale is that people did travel around even at aged 80.  So don't be strict of places.

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Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
Kent: Beer
Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
East London: Middleton, Gower, O'Farrell, Smith, Weston
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 May 05 20:29 BST (UK) »

Hi

Grandmother said her parents died when she was young and that they were from the East end. It seems strange that I cannot find a marriage....he was a widower before he met Agnes and he had children....he was not illiterate as he was a compositor so you would think that he would have married her...

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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 20:04 BST (UK) »

Hi i have been having trouble for some years trying to trace my ggrandmother Mary Ann Bowers on her death cert she died in NZit stated she was born c 1848 London,when i went to look London has so many areas however i did send for what i thought was her birth cert in Chelsea but it was a waste of moneyHer father John Bowers was a cabinetmaker could you give me any ideas how i might find her Thanks Harriet Embarrassed
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 October 05 17:10 BST (UK) »

Hello Harriet

If it says that on a death certificate it might not be true that she was born that year or that she was born in London.  I see you have already been looking for this family.

Have you put out a request for an 1851 lookup. I looked at Bethnal Green but could not find her.  1851 is coming on line soon on Ancestry and I believe it is already available on The Genealogist site.  You could also search 1837online.  This is a record of all BMDs but it is a pay site and would not show the fathers name.  You can, when you order a cert, say you only want the cert if the fathers name is correct.  I'm afraid we all have certificates which are not right.

Best to try to find her in 1851.

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Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
Kent: Beer
Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
East London: Middleton, Gower, O'Farrell, Smith, Weston
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #10 on: Monday 30 June 08 11:35 BST (UK) »

JMG
Don't rely on the fact you "think they got married", quite often they didn't for no apparent reason, one in my family never married her other half, she had been married but never found out what happened to him, she had at least 10 children with him then up and left him and finally whilst the poor man was in the work house  married someone else.
Also I have one who was a bigamist, she said her husband had died but he was still alive, so although we like to think everyone did the right thing, quite often they didn't, but don't give up

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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 00:00 BST (UK) »

Hi thanks for the reply.Since I first posted this request I have been given ggrannies very large family bible in it it states she was born April 10th 1852 but doesnt state where.
Her death cert states her parents name but that is only as good as the information she has given I realise this
However will keep on looking sometimes these things happenes when we least expect it Once again thank you for your information


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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 July 08 09:24 BST (UK) »

This may or may not be your request

Mary Ann Bowers born Dec qtr 1851 St Geo in East ref 2   124
This needs to be double checked if you are ordering this. I checked on Rootsweb Free BMD'S between 1851 and 1853 and only 1 showed for London

This may be her but father shown as George, the fact he was a wood carver I thought it was worth considering

1861 ref RG9/244 FOLIO 90  PAGE 33 54 Ely St Shoreditch
George 29 head born St Geo in East Wood carver
Mary Ann wife 29 St Luke's
Mary Ann daur 8 St Luke's
George son 6 Spitalfields
Susannah 4 Spitalfields
Edward son 2 Shoreditch

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LM

same family shown on 1871, ref RG10/463  FOLIO 25  PAGE 42
Mill Row Shoreditch

minus Susannah and Edward but plus
Jane aged 3
Thomas aged 1
Arthur aged 1

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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Lewis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
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Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
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Re: London City, East London, W London Registrations
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 July 08 11:05 BST (UK) »

Thank you for that will look into it
Cheers KateNZ
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