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941pars
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Hi
My GGG GrandfatherJames Taylor married Sophie McFarlane or Wilson.
I can only find her birth year 1794 and she was McFarlane but then the Wilson came in which has confused me when she married James.
Can anybody help
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davaar36
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According to the LDS site there is a James Taylor/Sophia McFarlane marriage on 29 Aug 1819 in Dysart. This is extracted from OPR M119512. This would seem a reasonable age fit for Sophie/a b.1794. Is this the wrong Sophie/a since you say she was "Wilson" at marriage?
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941pars
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HI
Thanks for the reply, that would fit in.
I am new to this site please excuse me but what is the LDS site,
And where does the Wilson come from on her name, might it be that she had an early marriage as she was a McFarlane in 1794.
Or am I getting confused.
Please Help
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MonicaLesl
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Normally when surnames are shown like this 'McFarlane or Wilson', it would normally imply that her birth was illegitimate. Have your tried searching for her birth under Wilson? What did her death cert. show in respect of her parents?
Monica 
Added: Just checked the birth entry for Cupar in 1794, which has the 'McFarlane or Wilson' names . This is a submitted entry by a member of LDS, not actual extract from the OPRs. Her marriage is under McFarlane only. Maybe her death cert. will have more information to help explain the two surnames.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Can't easily see the family of Sophia and James in 1841, have you managed to find them that year?
These are the children showing to them on IGI:
1. MARGARET TAYLOR Birth: 17 MAR 1835/ Christening: 23 MAR 1835 Dysart
3. CATHN. TAYLOR Birth: 25 JUL 1819/ Christening: 04 OCT 1819 Dysart
5. JAMES TAYLOR Birth: 04 NOV 1826/ Christening: 17 DEC 1826 Dysart
7. MARY TAYLOR Birth: 15 MAY 1822/ Christening: 23 JUN 1822 Dysart
9. SOPHIA TAYLOR Birth: 04 NOV 1829/ Christening: 29 NOV 1829 Dysart
Interestingly, the only entry I could see that connected to these children was this one, with Wilson as head:
James Wilson 65, hand loom weaver, b. Scotland
James Wilson 25, flax dresser, b. Scotland
Isabella Taylor 30
Sophia Taylor 11
Address: High Street, Dysart
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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941pars
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Hi Monica
Thanks for your help, I am still confused what is the LDS site and IGI?
James Taylor b 1821 was my GG Grandfather , but that doesn't fit in what you found.
The only think I am sure of is that James Taylor and a Sophie McFarlane or Wilson married in Dysart on 29th Aug 1819. And this Sopie was Born on 02/02/1794 in Cupar.
This was written down by my Gran Helean Wilson b 1897 who died in 1975.
Susie
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Piglet01
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LDS or IGI - = Mormons website at www.familysearch.org.
Shall pm you how to refine searches.
Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Borders: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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MonicaLesl
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Susie
What documents have you got to trace back your line. Did your Gran obtain any birth/marriage/death certs or census entries for the family? Have you been able to confirm and verify the line back? If you don't have these, it might be worthwhile trying to do so, just to confirm the information that your gran put together. The birth of son James Taylor in 1826 is the only one showing for James and Sophia, an actual extract from the Old Parish Registers.
Starting with your gran b. 1897, who were her parents and what info do you have for them?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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davaar36
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James Taylor was listed as a sailor when he married Sophia McFarlane in 1819. Witnesses David Taylor and Wm Forbes.
Sophie McFarline, wife of James Taylor, sailor, died in Dysart 24 March 1835. Note on OPR Death Register has a note : "Her grave is in front of Mary Banks stone"
In the 1841 Census for Relief Wynd, Dysart there is a Margaret Taylor,7 (near enough correct age for James and Sophia's daughter) along with a Mary Banks (65). both born in Fife but no other information. Possible this Mary Banks was Sophia's mother or mother-in-law who had a headstone already purchased and in situ?
Dod
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Dod
I did see the connection with the Banks family for the children in 1841. There is also another potential entry for another of the Taylor children from this family also with a Banks as head in another household. I don't think unfortunately that this is the right family for Susie's James Taylor from what I can see 
Susie, from your other post on www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,284892.0.html I can see now how you have worked back:
Euphemia Taylor b 1st April 1850 was the brother of my Great Grandfather
James Taylor b 10 August 1821 at Kemback, Fife
died 15th June 1896 at Woodhaven Scotland
married 23rd November 1844 at Ceres Fife
Agnes Goold (not sure of the spelling) b 15th May 1822 at St Andrews
died 9th July 1894 at Kilmany, Fife
James Taylor father is also James Taylor who
married 29th August 1891 at Dysart
Sopie McFarlane b 02 Feb 1794 at Cupar
The family of James Taylor and Agnes Goold shows in the censuses from 1851, following their marriage in 1844. Their children show on IGI (I hope Steve has sent on to you further details on IGI and searches  ).
You also have the death for James Taylor in Woodhaven in the Parish of Forgan in 1896. Where the problem lies is that the parents' names section on the death certificate for James is blank. The only thing written on this section refers to a mother (no first name) Taylor, domestic servant, deceased. The reporting of his death is not helped by the fact that it was by a son in law, John Davidson, who did not appear to know this information (not uncommon).
I'm not sure how the couple of James Taylor and Sophia McFarlane as possible parents was arrived at by your Gran unfortunately. You also have a birth of a James to them in 1826 after 'your' James was born which I would say, takes them out as possible parents.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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941pars
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HI Everybody
Thanks for all the information it is much appreciated, I did not got a clue how to get any further.
Monica the information that I have came from a family history book and I did see the marriage certificare of Sophie, but I do not have it now ( I saw it in 1980 but it has gone missing)
I wrote stuff down but not everything and the whole history book has disappeared some how.
I do remember that there was two James Taylor and one died young this might explain the difference in the birth year.
Oh I wished that I had that book and can remember more.
Susie
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