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Re:Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 June 04 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Thank You for your efforts............................

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Re:Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 10 June 04 22:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gabora, Have had a quick look at Kentarchaelogy, found some Roots there, have you tried it.

/Research/libr/Mls/ Roots site:http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk

I found this very helpful

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Re:Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 24 June 04 11:26 UTC (UK) »

Hello again Dovedale,
I found this at LDS from the IGI:

431. CHARLES RICHARD PILCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUL 1837 Playden, Sussex, England

432. ALFRED WILLIAM PILCHER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1840 Playden, Sussex, England

The records state that both Charles and Alfred were sons of Charles Pilcher and his wife Frances (no last name given)

From a Pilcher database referred to previously I found this:

1888 Wills
Alfred William P, Tenterden, Kent (d Aug 1874; Frances Beale Older, sister)
Arthur Henry Edmonds P, Tenterden, Kent (d Jul 1882; Frances Beale Older, sister)
Frances P, Tenterden, Kent (d Nov 6, 1887; Anna Louisa P, daughter)

This may be the Charles you are looking for and the details about Wills would prove his relationship with Frances Beale.
We will have to try and find the age of Alfred William Pilcher when he died in Aug. 1874 to make sure it is the same Alfred who was a son of Charles and Frances.

This Charles does not have the same birthday, but then if your Charles changed his name perhaps he changed his birth date as well.   More work to be done......

Let me know your thoughts.

Cheers,
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Re:Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 24 June 04 18:54 UTC (UK) »

Hello Dovedale,

Further to my earlier message of today, I will copy a private note which you sent to me previously:

Hi Fovglove. C R Curteis is indeed curious, cannot be sure of his name and birth date, its only what has come down through the family. Why would you destroy all your papers  I do have a copy of marraige cert and death cert and it has born USA and birth year 1830.

Will check out Charles Beale and Mary Witherden, i did see it and wondered the same, but never worked out why. Had too many names dates etc going around in my head.

Have most or all on the Alfred Wm / Arthur H E Pilcher, brothers of Fraces Beale / Older some of which i got from Colleen Shepard her Pilcher
page.

Have papers arriving with information on Curteis side, but think they will only confirm what we have just found. Will let you know, hopefully it may give a few clues to C R C. His wife was Jane Louise Slater Lang b 1835, Glasgow, father Mathew, can't find a trace on her, and have had no replys from Scotland.She was training to be a doctor / nurse before she came to NZ, we still have her medical bag, has Glasgow on it, probably from around 1850's.

Many thanks once again for all you have done, best service i have ever got. I am also doing Ivamy / Evamy, thats my side of the family.

Regards Dovedale


If you think that we may be on the right track with Alfred Wm. Pilcher, Arthur H. E. Pilcher, and now this newly found brother Charles Richard Pilcher born in 1837 at Playden, you may be interested in the following:

Children of JOHN TOMPSETT and ANN MAYNARD are:
16. i. FRANCES8 TOMPSETT, b. December 08, 1774, Wadhurst, Sussex, England; d. December 1856.
 ii. ELIZABETH TOMPSETT, b. May 20, 1776, Wadhurst, Sussex, England; d. May 27, 1859, Marden, Sussex, England; m. CHARLES PILCHER, Abt. 1804; b. Abt. 1768, Woodchurch, Kent, England; d. April 21, 1844, Playden.
 iii. MARIA TOMPSETT, b. Abt. 1778; d. Aft. 1851; m. GEORGE HARRIS, April 23, 1805, Etchingham, Sussex, England.
17. iv. JOHN TOMPSETT, b. Abt. 1782, Wadhurst, Sussex, England; d. 1879.
 v. SARAH TOMPSETT, b. Abt. 1784, Wadhurst, Sussex, England; m. GEORGE NEWINGTON, 1805, Ticehurst, Sussex, England.
18. vi. JAMES TOMPSETT, b. May 28, 1787, Wadhurst, Sussex, England; d. 1851.

This may be the grandfather of your Charles Pilcher/Curteis. He died in 1844 at Playden..........and was married in 1804 - this fits with the father of your Charles being born about 1808.

Three generations of these Thompsetts were from Tenterden.

This one gets very confusing so if you think I am off track please let me know - still haven't figured out Witherden.

Cheers,
Foxglove

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Re:Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 June 04 21:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Fovglove, Many many thanks for information, sounds like it could be him, although W / D cert said b in USA,will check it out more.Could this be fake ? Can't find out if you needed to register when changing names etc in 1800's. if so how / where.
Have the 1888 wills, thanks.
Will check out A W Pilcher
Also found a decendant of C S Pilcher, (CRP father) or C S P father, sent him an email but it came back, will keep trying.
Have Tompsett's but could'nt connect them
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 03 October 04 22:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Foxglove
I have two main familiies who originate from Tenterden:

Weston family including
John Pix W b 1810
Henry Burton W b 1812
Thomas W b 1813
Jane W b 1814
Stringer W b 1816
Elisabeth W b 1818
Marie W b 1820
John Pix W b 1833
Jane E W b 1834
Henry W b 1835
Harriet W b 1837
Emma W b 1838

Wightwick (or Witewich or similar)
Jane Elizabeth Wightwick b 1812, m John Pix Weston 2 Aug 1831 ( no other family details known)

ANY info would be veryhelpful
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 03 February 05 18:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Russell,
Sorry it took so long, but here is what I found:

By chance, my film included P.R.'s for Stowting and I noticed that a Curteis Whitewick was a curator of that parish in 1751.

Marriage at Tenterden 20th March 1809
John Tempest WESTON & Jane PIX

25th July 1809 Thomas WESTON marr. Catherine MANTELL

6th Aug. 1809 Baptism - Sarah d/o John & Eliza. Whitewick

21st June 1809 Edward Whitewick buried
7th Nov. 1806 Edward Wightwick buried (age 6)
25th Feb. 1807 Wm. Wightwick buried

23rd Dec. 1801 - baptism of Kitty, d/o Richard & Kitty Whightwick

It appeared that Jane Elizabeth Whitewick, d/o John and Elizabeth, was baptised 19th July 1811.

I will double check this on another film since you have the year as 1812.

Do you have the day and the month to go with the years of birth you have listed for the Weston children?
If not I can go through the film for them - I will try and verify the years you have given me as well.

I will probably find more the next time I view the film

If this info. brings to mind any questions, please let me know.

Regards,
Carol
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #22 on: Friday 04 February 05 00:22 UTC (UK) »

I just happened to see your offer.  I hope I am not too late to request some help.  I have a branch of my tree that left the UK for the American Colonies in 1645 that originated in Tenterden Kent.   I am hoping you can confirm some of the data I have found associated with the family through the parish records.

John Stanley (also spelled Standley) bapt Dec 26, 1624 Tenterden
father- John Stanley
mother- Elizabeth Urridge (her last name is a bit of a mystery but many claim this is her last name)
died 1706 in Farmington Connecticut, USA

John Stanley Senior- bapt Oct 8, 1599 in Tenterden
father- Robart Stanley
mother - Ruthe
married Elizabeth October 14, 1623 Bennedden Kent
died at sea

Robart Stanley- bapt March 9, 1571-72 in Tenterden
married  Ruthe Huh June 1, 1590
died May 31, 1605
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #23 on: Friday 04 February 05 01:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nutkin,
I hope to visit the LDS library again next week.
The handwriting becomes a bit of a challenge to decipher in the 1600's and earlier, but I will see what I can do for you.
Having the dates already does help as I will know exactly where to look initially.
Will let you know what I find.
Foxglove
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #24 on: Friday 04 February 05 01:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Russell,

I don't know if you are aware of this, but there is some very interesting information about your Wightwick and Weston families at the Tenterden Churchyard MI's page - here is the link:

www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/ Libr/MIs/MIsTenterden/MIsTenterden.htm

Cheers,
Foxglove

Hi Foxglove
I have two main familiies who originate from Tenterden:

Weston family including
John Pix W b 1810
Henry Burton W b 1812
Thomas W b 1813
Jane W b 1814
Stringer W b 1816
Elisabeth W b 1818
Marie W b 1820
John Pix W b 1833
Jane E W b 1834
Henry W b 1835
Harriet W b 1837
Emma W b 1838

Wightwick (or Witewich or similar)
Jane Elizabeth Wightwick b 1812, m John Pix Weston 2 Aug 1831 ( no other family details known)

ANY info would be veryhelpful
Russell

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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 05 February 05 00:55 UTC (UK) »

Thank you! YOur help is very much appreciated! Wink Kristin
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #26 on: Monday 02 May 05 21:07 UTC (UK) »

hi

i hope im not too late for your offer, do you know if woodchurch, kent is included in tenterden records please?

if so, im looking to trace John Nye Beaney (possibly beane) born 1834/1835 in woodchurch, kent

yours ever hopefully
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 15 May 05 10:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Serena,
Not too late, but I don't believe Woodchurch records are covered under my Tenterden films. I will have a look for John Nye Beaney just in case, and will let you know if I find anything. I am not sure when I will next visit the FHS - hopefully within the next 2 weeks.
Cheers,
Foxglove
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« Reply #28 on: Friday 03 June 05 21:46 UTC (UK) »

Hello Nutkin,


Sorry for the delay, but I have finally found some of the information you requested.

From the Tenterden Parish Registers - FHL BRITISH Film
1752237 Item 3 (Archdeacon's Transcripts)

I can confirm that John Stanley was baptised 26 Dec. 1624
father listed as John Stanley but it appears mothers were not listed
the writing is old English at this point in the film and very difficult to decipher.

I can also confirm the baptism of John Stanley Sr. on Oct. 8, 1599
son of Robert - again I can't be sure the mother's name was there.

I was not able to find Robert Stanley's baptism in 1571/72, nor did I see his marriage to Ruth in 1590.
Parts of the pages are missing at this point.
I will take some digital photos of the relevant pages and see if anyting is more clear on a computer.

I did find Robert Stanley's burial at Tenterden, on June 1st, 1605.

Will let you know when I have some photos of the images.

Cheers,
Foxglove

I just happened to see your offer.  I hope I am not too late to request some help.  I have a branch of my tree that left the UK for the American Colonies in 1645 that originated in Tenterden Kent.   I am hoping you can confirm some of the data I have found associated with the family through the parish records.

John Stanley (also spelled Standley) bapt Dec 26, 1624 Tenterden
father- John Stanley
mother- Elizabeth Urridge (her last name is a bit of a mystery but many claim this is her last name)
died 1706 in Farmington Connecticut, USA

John Stanley Senior- bapt Oct 8, 1599 in Tenterden
father- Robart Stanley
mother - Ruthe
married Elizabeth October 14, 1623 Bennedden Kent
died at sea

Robart Stanley- bapt March 9, 1571-72 in Tenterden
married  Ruthe Huh June 1, 1590
died May 31, 1605
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Re: Tenterden Parish Registers
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 04 June 05 00:27 UTC (UK) »

Foxglove- Thank you so much for all your help.  It is good to get confirmation that the information I have found has come from parish records.

A great help!!!! Cheesy Kristin
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