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Archibald McMillan
« on: Sunday 19 October 08 09:57 UTC (UK) »

I have been trying to find a birth for Archibald McMillan he was my paternal grandfather. I have the marriage certificate for him and my grandmother Margaret Riddle McDonald. They were married on the 31st of December 1918 at the Manse Bathgate, but I cannot find a birth for Archibald as I don't Know where he was born.  The names under the parent section on the marriage cert are (Donald McMillan 35, Madras Street, Inverness) and (Margaret nee Fairweather, Bridgend, Bathgate). I also have the marriage certificate for them  and the names of parents for Donald are (Malcolm, Police Seargent, Inverness) and (Maria nee McDonald from Denny) and I have lots of census information for various Donald McMillan's and seem to be going round in circles. Have you any suggestions that might help me solve this mystery. Huh
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:12 UTC (UK) »

Does the marriage cert show his age?
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Daval 57, yes his age was 18 at the time so he would have been born around 1900
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 October 08 13:52 UTC (UK) »

Sorry kerrbabs.
I've been searching various records for quite a while now. 
Apart from parents marriage in 1896, no joy.

According to SP, there are 42 Archibald McMillans born in Scotland 1899 to 1901.

You could view every one of them in the hope you'll find the correct one but it would cost you £42 unless you are lucky.

Obviously, you would start with 1900 and work outwards.

I'm not sure whether you are aware, but Scottish records at this time show names of both parents.

I apologise if you know all this.

I wish you luck.
Dave
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 October 08 15:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi "Daval57" I have the full list of the Archibalds born at that time and have checked out five or six of them to no joy but I will persist and see what I come up with, ( quite a journey but I am enjoying it ) One of my cousins thought that someone told her that Archie was posibly Donalds sisters son but she can't be sure of the fact or who told her about it.
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 October 08 17:09 UTC (UK) »

....... she can't be sure of the fact or who told her about it.

That sums up a lot of the 'facts' we follow.

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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 October 08 19:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dave, The fact of this matter is my cousin has only a vague memory of who told her and if there is any truth to it. The only true fact is that any one who could have verified it will be long gone. We never Knew our grandfather or any of his family, My father was the oldest son and neither he nor his two brothers had any idea of where their dad went to as they were only little boys when he left them.
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 October 08 20:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kerrbabs and Dave,

My first thought was to look at the 1901 census. I found Margaret McMillan (nee Fairweather) staying with her parents at Bridgend, Bathgate. However, no-one called Archibald was at that address, nor was her husband Donald. I then looked for Donald and/or his parents. Found Malcolm and Maria McMillan in Glasgow. No Donald or Archibald there either!! Hopefully someone with an Ancestry sub can take a look - census results on SP are just too expensive. Sad

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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 October 08 21:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Hume24, Thank you for the reply to my post on Archibald Mcmillan. I have the marriage cert of Donald and Margaret 24th/06/1896 and the usual residence for Donald is 35, Madras Street Inverness.
I have tried searching the 1881-1901 census records on Scotlands People but unfortunately the ones that I paid for were totally wrong. I am going out to buy some more vouchers tommorrow so if you could advice me the best way to get results as I have a pile of certificates of different McMillan's. Or is this the norm just Case of elimination?
Cheers Kerrbabs
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 13:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kerrbabs,

You may have this already, but I did pick up the 1881 census for the McMillans:

Address: 48 Hanover Street, Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Malcolm McMillan, m, head, 31, police constable, b. Glasgow
Maria ", f, wife, 32, -, b. At Sea (British Subject)
Donald McMillan, m, son, 8, scholar, b. Denny
Neil ", m, son, 6, scholar, b. Denny
John ", m, son, 3, -, b. Glasgow
Mary ", f, dau., 1, -, b. Glasgow

hume24 Smiley
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 19:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi hume24,
I am on the SP site at the moment and have just found another two children with Malcolm and Maria on the 1901 census. Malcolm Jr age 13 and Agnes age 9. How would you go about finding out records for at sea births? I also found Donald's birth cert he was born on 21/06/1872 in Denny. Malcolm was a lithographic printer at that time before joining the police force. Also how did you get the census records for Margaret Fairweather? I have tried umpteen times on SP and no matter what combinations i put in to the search details it always comes back with no results.
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 20:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Here she is (with parents) in 1901. Your trouble could come from her being listed as Maggie.

Address: Bridgend, Bathgate, West Lothian
Robert Fairweather, m, head, 57, iron labourer, b. Edzell, Forfarshire
Isabella ", f, wife, -, b. Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire
Robert ", m, son, 33, carter (labourer), b. Bathgate
Maggie McMillan, f, dau., 32, -, b. Whitburn
William Fairweather, m, son, 29, meal miller (?), b. Bathgate
Peter ", m, son, 24, steel dresser, b. Bathgate
Mary ", f, dau., 22, dressmaker, b. Bathgate
George ", m, son, 20, iron turner, b. Bathgate
Martha ", f, dau., 17, boot salesgirl, b. Bathgate

Will try and find them in the earlier census for you. Smiley

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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 20:17 UTC (UK) »

The Fairweathers in 1881. It should be easy to find them in 1891 now. Smiley

Address: 59 South Bridge St, Bathgate, West Lothian
Robert Fairweather, m, head, 37, carter, b. Edzell, Forfarshire
Isabella (Yuill) ", f, wife, 35, -, Auching..., Lanarkshire (?)
Robert ", m, son, 13, scholar, b. Bathgate
Margret ", f, dau., 12, scholar, b. Bathgate
William ", m, son, 9, scholar, b. Bathgate
Elizabeth ", f, dau., 6, scholar, b. Bathgate
Peter ", m, son, 4, -, b. Bathgate
Isabella ", f, dau., 4, -, b. Bathgate
Mary ", f, dau., 2, -, b. Bathgate
George ", m, 1 month, -, b. Bathgate

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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 21:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi hume24,
boy you've been busy...
thanks a bunch, I will see what I can come up with now.
Where do you think the surname Yuill originates from?
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Re: Archibald McMillan
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 October 08 11:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi again,

Isabella Yuill is shown as b. Lesmahagow in 1901 so I would start looking around that area for births. Have you found Isabella and Robert Fairweather's marriage certificate? It will give her and his parents' names, making it easier to find a birth/marriage for her parents.

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