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aitch
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Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« on: Sunday 19 October 08 21:05 UTC (UK) »

A shot in the dark here, as I'm all out of ideas....

My 3x great-grandfather, Joseph Barlow was a Stone mason, born in Alton, Staffordshire.  He's recorded in the 1841 Census in Alton with his 4 children - Eliza 15 (born out of county), James 15 (born out of county), Leah 12 (born Staffs), John 10 & Thomas 7.  His wife was named  Eliza and was born in 1800 (she had died in June 1836 in Alton aged 36 - details from burial register).

Eliza must have been in Alton in 1829 (as her daughter was born in the county, but must have been in another county in 1827 and before that....

So.... I'm looking for an Eliza somebody-or-other, born in 1799/1800 who married Joseph Barlow, a Staffs-born stone mason,  sometime between say 1820-1825....

.... has anyone lost a young Cheshire lass who might fit the bill??? Smiley

(warned you it was a bit of shot in the dark Grin - thanks for reading this... any bright ideas gratefully received!!)

- Aitch
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 08 21:12 UTC (UK) »

do you have the 1851 census for either of the 2 eldest children
you would then hopefully know where they were born
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 08 21:21 UTC (UK) »

Yes, and no... I can't find Eliza, but her brother is living in Alton with step-mother and the younger children - but unhelpfully gives his birthplace as Alton in the 1851 (and all later Census material).

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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 08 15:50 UTC (UK) »

according to an ext.rec.IGI
there is another child
name; job farnsworth barlow
chr date, 3rd march 1827
place; alton,staffordshire.
parents; joseph/eliza barlow.

maye elizas maiden name was farnsworth?

if as you say james gives his bithplace as alton in all the later censuses maybe the one that is wrong is the 1841
having said that i cannot find a christening or birth of james in alton
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 October 08 16:07 UTC (UK) »

found it
marriage
name joseph barlow
pouses name; eliza farneworth
marriage date. 3rd march 1821.
place; longdon by lichfield,staffs.
ext.rec.IGI
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 October 08 16:13 UTC (UK) »

Hey thanks wozzle,  I also  found that one last night - but wasn't sure about it as Lichfield would still have given then an address in Staffs - unless they just married there and moved out of county ....

As for the sons... I'd always kind of assumed that Job and James were one and the same - more because of the proximity of ages (even taking into account the rounding in the 1841)...

I'm really grateful for this brainstorming you're giving this... I've stared at this one for so long, it's good to get someone else's lateral thoughts on it! 
Much appreciated Wink

I'll check out Eliza Farneworth later - see if I can pick her up anywhere in later censuses..

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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 October 08 16:16 UTC (UK) »

here is probably elzas christening
fathers name same as elizas first son
the place is right as well with regard to the marriage between joseph barlow and eliza

chr record
ext.rec. IGI
name; eliza farnworth
christening date; 5th april 1801
place; longdon by lichfild,staffs.
parents name (only the fathers name is given). job farnworth.
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 October 08 16:19 UTC (UK) »

there is also possibly elizas fathers marriage
name job farnsworth
date; 13th june 1789
place; stafford.
spouses name; elizabeth lowe
ext.rec. IGI
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 October 08 16:36 UTC (UK) »

possibly elizas father job here in 1841
HO107/980/10/33/4.
job farnsworth aged 75. b. staffs. oc. blacksmith
elizabeth age 75. b. staffs
jane age 50. b. staffs
george age 40. b. staffs. occ blacksmith
living at longdon green,longdon,staffs
reg.dist. lichfield
on the original image it looks as if job was born out of county
but has been transcribed as born in county

do not kow why elizabeths name was not down as mother on elizas christening though
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Re: Joseph Barlow's wife Eliza - born 1799/1800
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 October 08 17:14 UTC (UK) »

Great sleuthing - thanks wozzle!

I'll take a good look at these Farnsworths later, but they're certainly looking likely.   It still leaves the mystery of why their early children were born out of county... and which county that might be.  Longdon is pretty much slap-bang in the middle of staffs - I maybe need to look into what might have taken Joseph Barlow out to Lichfield in the first place, I know he was a Mason (and must have been a pretty good one as he worked for the Earl of Shrewsbury on his rebuilding work at Alton Towers in the early 1800's) - maybe I should be looking for where else the Earl might have been building at the time...

Many thanks again for your thoughts and look-ups  Grin

- Aitch
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