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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #525 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 18:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Everyone
Been out of action for a few days but back now with 2 more marriage Certificates. Heres what I have
Deb you will like these.

1894 The parish Church parish of Prittlewell Essex.

378    Aug 7  Albert HEDGES 21 Bachelor Traveller Prittlewell Elijah HEDGES Hawker
          1894   Rose HEDGES 22  Spinster  Traveller Prittlewell Jeramiah HEDGES Traveller

Albert Hedges X his mark   Witnesses  Cecilia HEDGES
Rose Hedges                                         Arthur Busles (I think this is what it says)

1894 The parish Church parish of Prittlewell Essex

379  Aug 7   Elijah HEDGES 23 Bachelor  Traveller Prittlewell Elijah HEDGES  Hawker
        1894    Charlotte BIBBY 21 Spinster Traveller Prittlewell John BIBBY Traveller

Elijah Hedges X his mark     Witnesses  Rose HEDGES
Charlotte Bibby X her mark                    Alvey HEDGES
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #526 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 20:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jenny

OHHH MYYY!!! Now to sort out who is who.

so we have ;

Rose hedges d/o Jeremiah ..is he s/o JOB ?
Albert Hedges s/o Elijah ...s/o  JAMES?

= two 2nd cousins marrying?

ooo just seen Alvey was at the weddings  Cheesy

deb
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #527 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 00:45 UTC (UK) »

Ah, this is excellent news.

Am I correct in thinking both these couples had children?  I am sure there's reference to this somewhere, of so, could you relist the census entries please?

Also, who did Elijah Hedges marry?

There's this entry on FreeBMD:

Surname     First name(s)     Age     District     Vol     Page
Births Mar 1870   (>99%)
ATKINS    Alice        Dartford    2a   383
FLETCHER    Edith Jane         Dartford    2a   383
Harding    Mary         Dartford    2a   383
HEDGES    Elijah         Dartford    2a   383
HUNT    Herbert Edwin         Dartford    2a   383
Perfect    Rose         Dartford    2a   383
POFFLEY    Arthur Thomas         Dartford    2a   383
ROBINSON    Alfred         Dartford    2a   383
THOMAS    Eliza Jane         Dartford    2a   383
Wilkes    Matilda         Dartford    2a   383

Rose Perfect seems the likeliest candidate from the above.  We also know the Perfect family were travellers and Rose was very much a travellers name too.

Thanks.

James.
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #528 on: Friday 12 December 08 13:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi again everyone.
Sorry to be slow in reply but I have been away for nearly a week.
Did Deb manage to find out who Janice is related to, as I am very keen to contact her.
I have noticed on the certificate of marriage of Alvey Hedges to Alfred Cumbers I think that she must of lied about her age by a couple of years to make herself 21. Also one of the witnesses was Olive Hedges who I presume was her sister. The other witness Harry Shepherd. Does anybody know who he was?
The Hedges line down to my family is as Jenny said, from James Hedges b1816.
Thank you all again for your help.
Regards
Keith
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #529 on: Friday 12 December 08 19:21 UTC (UK) »

Hey Girls: 
You're both out for the night.  Anyway, I contacted a distant relative who has been doing a chart and who sent me some attachments that I can't open a few years ago.  I have contacted her again tonight.  She told me that a couple of years ago that she could trace back to Samuel Hedges in 1771.  Who knows, maybe this is the father of all the brothers!!!!!!!  Anyway, looks like we are going to solve it one way or the other. 
As for me, I was raised in Romford, Essex, and most of my mother's immediate family lived in Collier Row.  Grandfather Cumbers and Alvey owned an old pub called the Rose and Crown (according to my mother), and also owned the land near Clock House Lane, that became a housing tract after WWII.  Romford must have been a little village in those days.
When I get the chart, I will paste it on the site for you.  J.

Hi Keith

This is the last post that we received from Janice it was on Saturday 22 November. We haven't heard from her since I'm afraid. Have you tried sending her a PM.  She mentions above that she is the granddaughter of Alfred Cumbers and Alvey Hedges. Sorry I can't help more. I do hope Janice joins us again.
Jenny
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #530 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 18:05 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jenny
I have just stumbled across your posts on the Hedges family. My name is Peter and I can confirm that we are related. My great grandfather is Henry Hedges who is your great uncle. I was amazed to see a photo of him as I do not have one. Do you have any other photos of the Hedges family? My nan is Eliza Hedges born 1894. I remember seeing Henry Hedges just the once but my nan pulled me into an alley because she did not want to see him. I am afraid he was not a nice man but I can tell you about that later. I trawled through all 36 pages of the posts and I can help confirm some of your findings. I have extracted some of the pages to have a look at later but did you manage to solve your original problem about the Hedges brothers and subsequently who their parents were? By the way I was brought up the Brook area of Chatham but I currently live in Gillingham.
This is the first time I have posted anything on Roots Chat.
Let me know if I can help
Regards
Peter
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #531 on: Sunday 08 February 09 17:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Peter, great to hear from you. Well done for managing to get through all those posts. Sorry I haven't got back to you earlier I have been rather busy, of late. I am pleased  you enjoyed the photo of Henry I must get a decent copy to you. I have often wondered about Henry's descendant's and realized there was possibly some still in madway. As far as I can remember I was told Henry and Samson were close brother and got on well. They looked very much alike in the photo I have only Samson is taller. Feel free to email me at email address removed by moderator - please use the secure Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses - thankyou and I can see to it you get a quality copy of Henry's photo.
Regards Jenny
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #532 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

hi,
l am intrigued by all the info l have read about my great great grandfather Henry Hedges. my nan was Rose Anne Hedges, Elizas sister, Peters nan. l also heard  a few stories about Henry.  been trying to get a message up here for ages. l have  no pictures of my ancesters so was really pleased to see Henry and Samson and your lovely nan. this is all so very exciting. l have been researching my family hiatory since last year and have now been able to check my information with yours. also add some more.
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #533 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 22:34 UTC (UK) »

Hello India 2
My name is Peter and my nan was Eliza Hedges the sister of your nan  Rose Ann Hedges. I have a photograph of Eliza with a lady who I believe is her sister Rose Ann. Perhaps you may be able to confirm this for me. You are correct about Margaret Boswell. In fact my nan adopted her daughter Joyce after she died. My mum Rose always moaned about the fact that she had to share her bedroom with Joyce. I have a photo of Joyce with Eliza. I also have a some stories about Henry Hedges your great grandfather. However I am not sure that they should be aired in the public domain. If you care to send me more details about yourself and your e-mail address then perhaps we can go into more detail.
Regards
Peter
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #534 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 23:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Welcome India  Smiley

I am so excited for you all!! ...making connections with lost family, is always so fabulous! Hopefully Jenny and Janice will be back soon , so that the connection will come full circle.

deb  Cheesy
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #535 on: Thursday 19 February 09 09:22 UTC (UK) »

hi Peter,
thats brilliant! l am so excited. l agree that that Henry's should not aired in public. my nan would have nothing to do with him when she grew up.
is it safe to send my email adress on here, or is there another way. l would love to see the photo. The only one l have seen of her when she was young was the one my aunt Liza had. that was when l was a child.
cant wait to let you know more. lovely to meet you.
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #536 on: Thursday 19 February 09 09:26 UTC (UK) »

hi  Debs.

thanks for the welcome. l have been researching my history for years. finally it seems like l am getting somewhere.
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #537 on: Thursday 19 February 09 17:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi India 

Welcome to Rootschat

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Personal email addresses are not permitted on the boards here on Rootschat but you can use the Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses - click on the persons name who you wish to send a personal message to (to the left of any post they have written) and you will see their profile page where there is the option to send a personal message.  These messages are personal between yourself and the recipient.

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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #538 on: Thursday 19 February 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

hi Casks

thanks for that and thanks for the welcome

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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #539 on: Friday 20 February 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »

hi peter,
did you receive my message.  Huh not sure if l did it right.

Tricia
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