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Jane Barnes - 1841 Census (Completed)
« on: Friday 24 October 08 23:11 UTC (UK) »

Hello

I am trying to find the 1841 Census for Jane Barnes.  I have found her on the 1851 Census listed as head of household living in Hinckley Leicestershire with her children, including William and his wife Eliza.  Her place of birth is listed as Leicester and her age looks to be either 61 or 64 (1787-1790).

However, i cannot find her on the 1841 Census and so am not sure who her husband was (if he was alive then!)

Can anybody help me please?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 October 08 23:34 UTC (UK) »

1841 H0107/606/5 folio  30 page 9 Hinckley leicestershire

address new Brin??

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Samuel Barnes age 56 Bricklayers lab not born in county
Mary age 55 born in county
Sarah age 9 born in county
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next page same house

Thomas Holt age 53 Stocking Maker all born in county
Elizabeth age 49
John age 16
Thomas age 14
Ann age 21
Elizbaeth age 18  could be the Elizabeth Holt from the 1851 cencus
Sarah age 12
Frances age 8


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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 October 08 23:36 UTC (UK) »

Sorry

Meant to say this is the only Barnes so far with a connection with the other Holts 1851 no Jane.

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 October 08 23:43 UTC (UK) »

hello
Cannot find William Barnes 1841 have you found him.

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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 October 08 08:06 UTC (UK) »

No

I have not found William Barnes in 1841 either, he was apparently born in Hinckley around 1820 although i have not found any further info on his birth or of a marriage to Eliza.  Eliza is listed as being born in Nottingham, so perhaps the family lived around there for a while.

Thanks for your assistance.

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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 October 08 08:19 UTC (UK) »

What was Eliza's age in 1851? Were there any children with them?
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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 October 08 11:10 UTC (UK) »

1851

Jane Barnes age 61 Hinckley
William Barnes age 31 Hinckley
Eliza Barnes age 29 Nottingham
Emma Barnes age 2  Nottingham
Sarah Ann Barnes age 5 months Hinckley
Elizabeth Holt age 28 lodger Hinckley
Henry Holt age 4 months Hinckley
Esther Marriott age 21 lodger Barwell leicestershire
Sarah Marriott age 19 lodger Barwell

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1841 H0107/853/14 folio 6 page 24 Colston Bassett Bingham Nottinghamshire


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John Smallwood age 50 Gamekeeper Not born in county
Maria Holmes age 21 FS Yes born in county
Mary Barnes age 25 born in county
John Barnes age 3 born in county
Henry Barnes age 2 born in county
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Thomas Baily age 60 ag lab not born in county
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William Barnes age 50 yes born in county ag lab
Jane Barnes age 55 not born in county
William Barnes age 20 yes in county ag lab
Eliza age 30 yes in county
John Barnes age 1 yes born in county


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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 October 08 11:14 UTC (UK) »

William Barnes married Eliza Swain March quarter 1840 Bingham Leicestershire/Nottinghamshire   15   596A


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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 October 08 11:39 UTC (UK) »

William Barnes age 50 yes born in county ag lab
Jane Barnes age 55 not born in county
William Barnes age 20 yes in county ag lab
Eliza age 30 yes in county
John Barnes age 1 yes born in county

I had found that one and thought it looked promising.

John Barnes born March quarter 1840, Bingham 15, 471, and 15, 486.
(Bingham R.D. includes Colston Bassett)
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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 25 October 08 13:43 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for all of your research.  This looks promising.  The only discussion points are that Eliza appears to be a good 10 years older than she is listed in the 1851-1871 Census' (unless he married another Eliza between 1841 and 1851?) and William is listed as being born in the County of Nottingham, whereas he is listed as being born in Hinckley on the 1851-1881 Census.

Still the best fit though.

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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 25 October 08 13:51 UTC (UK) »

Just looked again - Jane and William Barnes appear on the 1851 and 1861 Census' from Colston Bassett census (1851 - Class: HO107; Piece: 2139; Folio: 349; Page: 13 and 1861 - RG9; Piece: 2485; Folio: 39; Page: 9) and so this unfortunately cannot be the right Jane as i already have her on the 1851 Census in Hinckley as a widow!

Looks like we will have to keep looking.

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1851 Holt-Barnes connection
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 October 09 23:12 UTC (UK) »

There is definetly a Barnes - Holt family tie as the 1851 Census for Hinckley would indicate:

1851 Census - Hinckley - Leicestershire UK

Thomas Holt 24 head Stocking Maker Cotton
Elizabeth Holt 17 wife  Seamer
John Holt 4 months son
Frances Holt 17 sister Seamer
Mary Barnes 68 Aunt Seamer Pauper
Sarah Arnold 34 cousin Seamer

Thomas & Frances Holt are the children of Thomas and Elizabeth Holt - sometimes spelt as Hoult by researchers
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Re: Jane Barnes - 1841 Census
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 19:44 UTC (UK) »

Have now found the right 1841 Census - i think!

Jane's husband was Josiah Barnes.  Josiah was from Ansley Warickshire and Jane was from Leicester.  Josiah married Jane in St Margaret's, Leicester in 1818.  Children incl William, Jane, Josiah and Elizabeth.

Josiah died between 1841-1851.  Not sure when as there are several deaths on freeBMD for a Josiah Barnes in Hinckley during that time - one of the others is probably his son.

Jane then went on to live with her son William and his wife Eliza in Hinckley in 1851 before dying on 11/12/1859.

I can't find an appropriate christening for Jane Brooks, which would have taken place around 1787, probably in Leicester.

Regards

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