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Topic: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields (Read 7340 times)
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caerfai
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Thank you so much Stan for your prompt reply.
Yes, this is useful and I can investigate. My family, the Kidds and Smalls left in the 1870's and ended up in Utah. What a journey it must have been.
The Kidds came from Staffordshire Moorlands. Can the local papers of that time be accessed via the internet as I am in Lancashire?
Many thanks,
Patricia
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stanmapstone
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My answers only refer to England and Wales
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Hi Patricia,
Local Nineteenth Century Newspapers are available online, but unfortunately they are subscription sites available only to libraries and universities etc. Occasionally they have a free trial period for anyone, the last one was about three months ago and there will probably will be another in the future. It is worth checking to see if your local library subscribes. A lot of libraries subscribe to "The Times" digital archive, but of course that is London based.
Stan
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caerfai
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Thank you Stan.
I will contact my library. It is a shame we cannot get it on Ancestry.
Best Wishes,
Patricia
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caerfai
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Hello Westoe,
Thank you.
I have had a little look. Will delve deeper.
Pity there are not any staffordshire papers on.
Best wishes,
atricia
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jennyM
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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 12 March 09 21:35 GMT (UK) »
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Quote from: jennyM on Thursday 12 March 09 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Westoe,
No his Father was George Lord & Mother Elizabeth Chapman. John Chapman born 1834, did have a brother George but no William. His Father George had a brother William though.
Best wishes
Jenny
Hi Jenny,
Don't suppose your George Lord was born in Sunderland in 1829 and recorded as a shipbroker? (Daughter Emily?)
Anniemudge:
Yes thats right George Lord brother to my John Chapman Lord married Eliza Jane Lister and had Emily Lord 1855.
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ANDREWS (LON/WestHam/Deptford/Greenwich/1829-1900)
BOYLE Ireland(DON/Doe Point, Creeslough)
COYLE Ireland(DON/Derrynamansher)
DAWSON (HAM/Ryde, Cowes ,Isle of Wight/1815-1915)
DAWSON (DOR/Sturminster,Hammoon,Okeford Fitzpaine/1750-1815)
FITZGERALD (COR/unknown 1800-1830)
GIBBS (SRY/Camberwell/Greenwich/1800-1900)
LORD (DUR/Sunderland, Bishopwearmouth 1800-1900 & GLOUC 1700's-1900's)
MCDONNELL (Mallow,Cork1860-1940)
WATSON (KEN, Greenwich,Deptford 1790-1900
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Westoe
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Just thought I'd summarise where I am with this very interesting set of families. It seems bankruptcy was more of a likelihood for them than not. .....he went bankrupt twice .....he went bankrupt in 1865 ...... filed for bankruptcy in 1861 ..... bankrupt 1871..... 1879 filed for bankruptcy .....
JULIAN
Another niggley item. It is somewhat mean-spirited to lay so much emphasis on the bankruptcies.
These were smallish family-owned businesses. Unlike the Enron and Hollinger executives, it was their own money they lost. And they were operating in a far different marketplace than today's - no gov't grants, no tax incentives, no affirmative-action incentives and when they got into trouble, no taxpayer-funded bail-outs.
Bankruptcy was as constant a possibility in those times as cholera, infant mortality and the workhouse. The Gazettes and the newspapers carry thousands of bankruptcy notices.
What did these people do when that happened? They picked themselves up, tightened their belts, most often tried something else and went to work building up again.
Emphazing the bankruptcies, as you have done, implies that these were shameful people. They were not.
Cheers,
Westoe
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Westoe
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Was Archibald Henry LEE, (son of Charles Havelock LEE and Florence), an officer in the Welsh Rifles in WWI?
Cheers,
Westhoe
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Malcommon
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Hi
If you go to the Library, in the reference part ask for ,' The Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships' it is a great book and names all the ships and owners and their sailing destinations, it might just have what you are looking for.. If you can not find it in Sunderland I'm sure Newcastle central library will have a copy.
best wishes Malcolm
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archielee
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re earlier question from Westoe
Archibald Henry Lee did serve in the Welsh Regiment during WW1 - in particular in Egypt . I believe he was a captain
cheers
Archielee
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